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1 posted on 11/08/2006 8:34:45 AM PST by TheNewPatriot
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..actually, I would like to see the turnout numbers before making too harsh of a judgment that it was due to 'cut and run' Conservatives.


2 posted on 11/08/2006 8:36:33 AM PST by mnehring (Did 'True Conservatives' stab our troops in the back by not voting?)
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Who's the stupid one who keeps bringing back an idiot like your RINO senator?

Get real. We all have enemies we get along with better than him.


3 posted on 11/08/2006 8:37:14 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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The United States WILL survive this bump in the road (and it is a big one)...it just means that the cost now is going to be much higher.

I like George Washington's take and believe his wisdom will ultimately apply:

"No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain blessings. Much to be regretted indeed would it be, were we to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to, so plainly; I cannot believe it will ever come to pass. The Great Governor of the Universe has led us too long and too far to forsake us in the midst of it. We may, now and then, get bewildered; but I hope and trust that there is good sense and virtue enough left to recover the right path. " - George Washington

We are in one of those times when we have become "bewildered". God help us, for the sake of all those who hold fast to the founding principles this nation was based upon, and upon which she rests to this day, find our path once again.

4 posted on 11/08/2006 8:38:01 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be)
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the party you allowed to take control

The Libertarians and "real conservatives" deny, deny, deny, but that's the phrase that pays.

They allowed the Dems to take control by taking out their anger in this way.

Brace for "The Republicans MADE us allow the Democrats to take control!" posts...

5 posted on 11/08/2006 8:38:12 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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Bullshit. America lost because of apathetic Republican voters. 40% turnout is mind boggling.


6 posted on 11/08/2006 8:39:18 AM PST by stm (It's time to take our country back from the surrender monkeys.)
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Way to pull us all together for 08.

With upbeat republicans like you on board I just KNOW we'll win!

8 posted on 11/08/2006 8:41:19 AM PST by skeeter
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granted amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants, ended the border fence,

12 million is the official gov't estimate, which I wouldn't trust. I'd say we're looking at around 25 million new voters (and their rabbit-like breeding habits), the vast majority of them new Donkeys. ....which doesn't bode well for the future of the GOP.

9 posted on 11/08/2006 8:41:19 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Wrong! The biggest winner in all of this is the MSM.


14 posted on 11/08/2006 8:44:10 AM PST by lesko
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Why do so many FReepers blame the MSM, the voters etc.. The blame lies withs with the Republican leadership and they should take responsibility.....hell, I've voted straight line Repub since 1976 and I did again yesterday....but I'll tell you....I am really pissed at how they handled just about everything.....I"m still a loyal Repub and voted such, but in Bush's 2nd term, and holding all both houses and the Pres.....all they did was worry about their power and failed to do a hell of alot in the last two years.. I still support them....but THEY are not the reform party that came in in 1994 anymore....nor the Reagan party that I really miss.....We need to get back to our roots....I don't even mind compromising on some things here and there..but hell, we have to do something....and next time.....I think some of those guys should stay the hell away from the BS of an Abramhoff etc.....
....It is like being pissed off at your spouse or friends. You still love them but sometimes you have to lay down the law.......just my two cents.....
16 posted on 11/08/2006 8:44:45 AM PST by NorCalRepub
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Not me. I voted straight Republican down the line like my life depended on it. Plus, I sent in a couple of contributions.

This may not be the end of the world or Western civilization, but it's going to be close.

The Dhimi craps, Dim o craps are the end of the world, especially Hillary.
18 posted on 11/08/2006 8:46:44 AM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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Now that is to harsh!Could it be some republicans voted for the Rats...I didn't vote for them and know with people that the democrats have in office I would never vote for them..Give me a conservative democrat not a RINO any day...Where are you Zell Miller?Just give the Dem's the chance and the American people will feel the loss when they get started on all their hearings..That is what they are good at...spending money that way..now I am headed out to do my Christmas shopping while I still have money..After the Dem's get finished we will be paying lots in Taxes...


19 posted on 11/08/2006 8:47:20 AM PST by Beth528
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A screed of pure, unadulterated, 100 percent, far-right playbook foolishness. Our guys' policies and arrogance caused the disaster; and, we deserve it!


20 posted on 11/08/2006 8:48:54 AM PST by middie
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I am referring to all you Republicans who stayed home disillusioned that you were hurting Republicans.

Yeah, it isn't the fault of the GOP for stuffing earmarks into bills until they burst. It isn't the fault of the GOP for cavorting with the likes of Abramoff or steering lobbing money to the kids. It's all the fault of the voters!

21 posted on 11/08/2006 8:49:07 AM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - the world's only re-usable political suicide bomber.)
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Ever think it maybe was "the perfect storm" of folks dissatisfied?
A few from the illegal immigrant bloc
A few from the fiscal bloc
A few from the anti-war bloc
A few from the moral voter bloc
etc., etc...

Enough dissatisfied folks from each can lead to what happened...

Or it could be just the "change is good" way that happens in the 6th year of an administration....
29 posted on 11/08/2006 8:54:02 AM PST by dakine
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Or Maybe America got what they wanted.

Ever think of that?


39 posted on 11/08/2006 9:00:46 AM PST by The_Republican (So Dark The Con of Man)
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The RINO from PA is Specter, not Santorum.


46 posted on 11/08/2006 9:05:56 AM PST by Joann37
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I am a conservative Republican and have been so for about 15 years, and I did go vote for Republicans, but I understand why lots of our side sat it out. We put the Republicans in power 12 years ago thinking they would have a revolution of sorts in Washington. They started out acting the part, but over the years, they are so much like Democrats you can hardly tell the difference. They generally act like we want them to "get along", when what we sent them to do was fight. The war is not lost, but this battle certainly is, and it's hard to say how long it will take before those of us with conservative ideas have a chance again. IF Republicans can again take control of the house and senate, I certainly hope that last night's defeat will spur them to do what we really wanted them to do. It's the will to fight that sustains a war. It's a defeatist attitude, of which I see much here, that loses the war.
The Republican defeat last night was not due to Iraq, but rather to ticked off Republicans (like myself) who are disgusted with Republican politician play-nice attitudes and the lack of courage and character to do what they were elected to do. I held my nose and voted yesterday. Not because Republicans are doing anything of substance, but because I hated the thought of Democrats back in control. I bet I'm not the only one.


52 posted on 11/08/2006 9:10:16 AM PST by 308win
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Maybe we lost because our party sold a bunch of us out. I heard it said best last night: We swept into power promising to drain the swamp and ended up deciding the whole thing made a really good hot tub!

There is enough blame to go around. People who didn't vote...yada yada yada. BUT...the reason people didn't vote is our idiot party leaders didn't motivate them to vote becuase of all their poor choices. They certainly didn't motivate the independants to break our way.

What we have here on FR is a ideological divide. One side says vote straight GOP even if they have stabbed you in the back over all the issues (or most) that you care about. If you want to get rid of RINO's...do it in the primary. The other side says...the best way to get rid of a RINO is to punish them by staying home or voting third party.

Honestly...I don't nkow which is best...all I know is both options stink and I hate the fact that my beloved GOP even makes me have to decide it. If I chose the first option....I am most likely going to end up with the RINO because it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to get rid of his/her sorry butt in the primary and everyone here knows it...and the very suggestion that we should do it that way is just plain stupid...it never works.

On the other hand...if I don't vote or go with a third party...I end up with a SFOLIB as the speaker.

The only thing I can say is at least with the latter option...I did lose my RINO and HOPEFULLY I can get a REAL republican the next time.

BUT...let's not kid ourselves...this butt kicking wasn't just about GOP staying home. It also wasn't just about Bush. It wasn't just about a scandle plagued GOP congress. It wasn't just about the media doing is darndest to paint us dark. It was about all of the above.

The GOP stayed home because for the last several years...our congresscritters have done nothing we asked of them.

Anyone who thinks a presidents 30 something approval rating isn't going to hurt their party in the midterms is psychotic.

The GOP was engauged in somethings on K street that the dem's never did...and some of them deserved to be brought down and thrown into jail.

We will always have to fight the media...but when you give them ammo box after ammo box...WHAT DO YOU FREAKIN EXPECT?!?

That's why we lost...all those factors. The GOP has nobody but themselves to blame...they squandered a great opportunity...and it is all a matter of philosophy on how you punish the party that let you down.

If the Republicans expect my vote in the future...they need to act like conservatives: financially...socially...and MORALLY!

Democrat Light won't do it anymore for me...and I would hope that none of you would take it anymore either. If we can't police our own...then we are no better than them.

57 posted on 11/08/2006 9:13:34 AM PST by NELSON111
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bump


61 posted on 11/08/2006 9:31:11 AM PST by lowbridge (Got my own set of keys to the Rovian Weather and Earthquake Machine.)
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Being a Conservative minority is easier.

Conservative voters, being rolled by the MSM/DNC into thinking they had to punish their Conservative office holders.

But now we are supposed to wait for a hero to save us, barf.


62 posted on 11/08/2006 9:35:28 AM PST by roses of sharon
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