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BATF Jihad Against Custom Gunsmiths
Michael Bane ^ | 03/30/06 | Michael Bane

Posted on 03/30/2006 6:50:31 PM PST by Copernicus

Thursday, March 30, 2006

Michael Bane

BATF Jihad Against Custom Gunsmths!?!?!

I didn't post yesterday tryng to make heads or tails of this, but quite frankly, I can't...and the information needs to get out!

It appears that apparently to thumb their noses at the current Congressional inquiry into BATF abuses, BATF have launched and initiative aimed custom gunsmithing in America.

The weapon they're using is a really fine point...what is the definition of "manufacturing a firearm"? That phrase is NOT defined in any legislation and, since it's not a legally defined term, it's open to interpretation. Since the late 1990s, when the then ATF hit gunsmith Jim Clark Senior for "manufacturing a firearm" (which cost Jim more than $100,000 but alledgedly clarified the question) was "making or providing the controlled, or serial-numbered, part."

The new BATF definition of "manufacturing a firearm" is "making any substantive changes to a firearm."

Using the new definition, the BATF hit Competitive Edge Gunworks — who has been featured on SHOOTING GALLERY and COWBOYS — and threatened chief gunsmith Larry Crow with SIX felony counts (including one for "changing the hammer and barrel of a Ruger and installing an octagonal barrel") unless he signed a paper admitting to "manufacturing" and agreeing to pay a fine and the back taxes. He thought he was out for maybe $1000.

The next day revenue agents showed up at his door and asked for his books. The paper he signed, and the "new policy" of the G, was that Crow has to pay the 11% excise tax — and big penalties — on EVERY SINGLE GUN HE HAS EVER WORKED ON SINCE DAY ONE. That moves the number from $1000 to roughly $100,000, enough to bankrupt his business.

Part of this, I suspect, is the BATF is pissed off that gunsmiths got a 50-gun exemption to the excise tax and manufacturing license last year, attached to a transportation bill. BATF BITTERLY opposed the bill, and there's a lot of thought that this is payback. There's also some speculation that BATF has been trying to find a way to get a lever on the HUGE "build-your-own-AR" parts business, and this would do it.

The agents alledgely showed Crow a membership list of the Pistolsmiths Guild and other gun craft guilds and told him that he was only the first.

Tom Gresham of GunTalk Radio and I have been sounding the alarm...both NRA and NSSF lawyers are on it now, with Second Amendment Foundation close behind. I'm going to the Congressional Sportsmens Foundation today. Master gunsmith Hamilton Bowen says if this isn't a tempest in a teapot...some local jockey trying to make his bones...it puts 3/4 of the Pistolsmith Guild, including him, out of business.

I'm traveling, but more as this develops! posted by Michael Bane at 8:38 AM 2 comments


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Politics
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Apparently the Janet Reno BATF hires are still at work in BATF

Best regards to all,

1 posted on 03/30/2006 6:50:32 PM PST by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus

Never trust an organization that plants its flag on property after a raid.


2 posted on 03/30/2006 6:55:50 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Copernicus

This is all so wrong. They're worried about people who have done NOTHING to harm this country and then turn a blind eye to millions of illegal aliens intent on bringing the nation to its knees. Boy, is this country screwed up!


3 posted on 03/30/2006 6:56:38 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Copernicus
They've had it in for gunsmiths for some time. It's an easy bust - all they have to do is intimidate one guy into not renewing his FFL and they've gotten "another illegal arms dealer off the street." Promotions all around. The Brady bunch laps it up.
4 posted on 03/30/2006 7:00:50 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Its a sad time in American history. This is exactly why i almost never buy my guns from FFL's anymore. One day those Background check papers will be collected. I believe they are collected by the ATF once a gun shop closes down.

I buy most of my guns privatly now. Its none of the governments damm business what i own.


5 posted on 03/30/2006 7:05:57 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: Copernicus

"Manufacturing a firearm" is probably this side of putting together a potato gun ~


6 posted on 03/30/2006 7:10:12 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Copernicus

The is George Bush's BATF. After 5 years trying to blame Clinton won't work. Bush owns this one and he needs to take steps to stop the abuses.


7 posted on 03/30/2006 7:18:42 PM PST by Modok
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To: Copernicus

I thought this was a pro-gun executive branch?


8 posted on 03/30/2006 7:31:04 PM PST by John Filson
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To: festus
...Never trust an organization that plants its flag on property after a raid. ...

I thought I was the only one that noticed that.

During the fire you can see the Davidian flag floating away. But the flag pole was upwind of the fire and several yards away from the building.

The bastards cut away the Branch Davidian flag and raised thier own.

May God damn their souls to hell.

Take a moment to picture this...

9 posted on 03/30/2006 7:55:12 PM PST by FReepaholic (I was FReepin' when FReepin' wasn't cool.)
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To: Modok

Institutionally, rot & corruption can be so entrenched that neither Clinton or Bush can be blamed for the putrid and murderous attempts to join the big leagues of federal law enforcement agencies. They (ATF) are gonna get respect no matter how many people they have to kill!


10 posted on 03/30/2006 8:34:35 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Squantos; Shooter 2.5; Tijeras_Slim; Eaker; PoorMuttly; humblegunner; Ladysmith; SWAMPSNIPER

ping


11 posted on 03/30/2006 8:50:14 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: festus
Never trust an organization that plants its flag on property after a raid.

Or as importantly, one whose very reason for existance is to violate the highest law in the land. BATFE no longer collects taxes, on "A", "T", or "F", now that they are part of Justice rather than treasury, so their main reason for existance is to enforce the unconstitution gun control laws.

12 posted on 03/30/2006 8:52:39 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Modok
he is George Bush's BATF. After 5 years trying to blame Clinton won't work. Bush owns this one and he needs to take steps to stop the abuses.

Since even the President isnt'omnificent, I'd amend that to say that he owns it as soon as he's informed of the abuses.

13 posted on 03/30/2006 8:54:54 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Copernicus

OMG! Why would they go after someone who works with SINGLE action revolvers?

The BATF is nothing more than home to a bunch of homegrown terrorists. Waco, Ruby Ridge, all the FFL dealers they terrified in the middle of the night to check their records.

I don't see how a civil war can be avoided in this country with everything that is going on being handled so poorly.

http://www.competitiveedgegunworks.com/index.html


14 posted on 03/30/2006 9:28:42 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: Copernicus
It appears that apparently to thumb their noses at the current Congressional inquiry into BATF abuses...

Who is involved in this inquiry? They need to introduce a bill to diband these tyrant thugs.

15 posted on 03/31/2006 5:51:18 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi
diband... or disband them, even

nuts

16 posted on 03/31/2006 5:52:15 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

WTF, so if you go and install a match grade barrel on a firearm you already own it is considered 'manufacturing' a new firearm and you need to be a FFL?

Absurd.


17 posted on 03/31/2006 6:23:39 AM PST by noobiangod
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To: Copernicus

Moral of the story, don't ever sign anything until you review it with legal counsel.


18 posted on 03/31/2006 6:28:15 AM PST by dc27
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To: thegreatbeast
Institutionally, rot & corruption can be so entrenched that neither Clinton or Bush can be blamed for the putrid and murderous attempts to join the big leagues of federal law enforcement agencies.

President Bush could have disbanded them, instead of moving them to the Justice department. Now they feel even more "in competition" with the FBI, ICE and other federal law enforcement agencies to see who has the biggest .. er .. "equipment"

19 posted on 03/31/2006 7:28:12 AM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Someone whose been in government that long and claims conservative credentials would mistrust the entrenched and proactively investigate to look for abuses and set out policies prescribing brutal punishment for civil rights abuses by staffers BEFORE he was aware of any abuses, just in case. Course the Federal employees unions would get their panties in a twist, but they already go to permanent maximum twist any time there's a (R) in office, so what more are they going to do?


20 posted on 03/31/2006 7:35:06 AM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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