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Concealed carry permit holders kill hundreds (Most slanted article of the week)
The New Pittsburgh Courier ^ | May 20, 2015 | Freddie Allen, NNPA Senior Washington Correspondent

Posted on 05/20/2015 8:41:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

George Zimmerman, the former neighborhood watchman who shot and killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed Black teenager in Sanford, Fla., three years ago was involved in another shooting in the Sunshine State, again raises questions about concealed carry permits and the billion-dollar gun industry that advocates for legislation aimed at making it easier for Americans to carry firearms everywhere, all of the time.

Matthew Apperson of Winter Springs, Fla., who said that Zimmerman threatened him following a road rage incident last year, claimed that he was acting in self-defense when he fired a single shot through the passenger side window of the truck that Zimmerman was driving.

Last Friday, police charged Apperson with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and firing a deadly missile into an occupied vehicle, according to the Orlando Sentinel.

The dispute with Apperson follows a series of events where Zimmerman has been accused of threatening people with guns. In September 2013, just a few months after Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder, his estranged wife and her father said that Zimmerman threatened them with a gun and in November 2013, Zimmerman’s then-girlfriend accused him of threatening her with a shotgun.

The Orlando Sentinel reported that Don West, Zimmerman’s lawyer, said that his client was armed and but didn’t wave the gun or shoot at anyone during the altercation with Apperson. West added that Zimmerman has a concealed weapons permit and often travels with a gun for protection.

Despite the self-defense claims propped up by the supporters of concealed carry laws, the Violence Policy Center (VPC), a nonprofit group that seeks to address gun violence as a public health crisis, concealed carry permits holders are more likely to kill themselves or others during non-self defense events.

The center tracks fatalities associated with concealed carry gun permit holders at ConcealedCarryKillers.org and found that 743 people have been killed, including 17 law enforcement officers.

“In the vast majority of the 561 incidents documented (468, or 83 percent), the concealed carry permit holder either committed suicide (222), has already been convicted (184), perpetrated a murder-suicide (46), or was killed in the incident (16),” stated a press release about the website.

More than 70 people have been killed in Florida alone by concealed carry gun permit holders.

In a press release about ConcealedCarryKillers.org, Kristen Rand, the legislative director of VPC, said that research shows that concealed carry permit holders are involved in murders or suicides far more often than they act in self-defense. Rand added: “The NRA is relentlessly lobbying state and federal lawmakers to allow more concealed handguns in public despite the clear evidence that doing so puts more people in danger.”


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; trayvon; zimmerman
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Got that?!
1 posted on 05/20/2015 8:41:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Its perfectly clear, concealed carry holders have stopped thousands of potential future crimes and reduced the criminal population. Thats what I get out of the article, the rest is liberal feel good nonsense.


2 posted on 05/20/2015 8:50:25 PM PDT by GunHoardingCapitalist (Join me in the world of next Tuesday!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like somebody been hittin’ da sauce.


3 posted on 05/20/2015 8:50:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer
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“More than 70 people have been killed in Florida alone by concealed carry gun permit holders.”

No mention of the situation. A legally armed person could have put himself in harms way and stopped a mass murder and the death would be tallied here.


4 posted on 05/20/2015 8:51:55 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Must be talking about Chi-Congo again. All those guns sure are concealed until used.


5 posted on 05/20/2015 8:51:58 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trayvon got what he asked for and Apperson is nuttier than a fruitcake.

End of that discussion.


6 posted on 05/20/2015 8:52:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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I’m not buying any of these stats from this extremely biased source.


7 posted on 05/20/2015 8:53:43 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Poorly written article.

My question: How many of the people killed by CC permit holders were killed in justifiable circumstances? That is, how many of those who were killed were attacking the shooter?


8 posted on 05/20/2015 8:57:55 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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I think my IQ dropped a few points after reading that. Also, I went to that Web site, “concealedcarrykillers.org” and some of their cited instances are self inflicted “killings”


9 posted on 05/20/2015 8:58:40 PM PDT by corlorde (Oath Keeper)
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A paper to the Left of the Post-Gazette in PGH? wow!


10 posted on 05/20/2015 8:58:48 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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A minority of Americans own guns, but just how many is unclear. More than a third of Americans say they or someone in their household owns a gun. There are by various estimates anywhere from 270 million to 310 million guns in the United States and 561 were used in their example. That equals .0000002% of guns being used in an “incident”.


11 posted on 05/20/2015 9:11:14 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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Concealed carry permit holders kill hundreds

Should read: Concealed carry permit holders kill hundreds of scumbags that deserve it.


12 posted on 05/20/2015 9:11:21 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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“The dispute with Apperson follows a series of events where Zimmerman has been accused of threatening people with guns. “

No mention that Apperson was a nutcase with a lot of history with police, road rage and neighbors.


13 posted on 05/20/2015 9:11:45 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Unarmed black teenager ping


14 posted on 05/20/2015 9:13:27 PM PDT by samtheman
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Guy who shot at George Zimmerman recently in mental institution
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3291836/posts

Man charged in George Zimmerman shooting had ‘fixation,’ history of mental illness: cops
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3291428/posts


15 posted on 05/20/2015 9:14:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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16 posted on 05/20/2015 9:28:51 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough...the Low Information President Obola (LIPO) goes golfing)
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Nothing wrong will killing, as long as the right people are getting killed.


17 posted on 05/20/2015 9:37:28 PM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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Didn’t they mean we kill thousands every year? All they would have to do is ask to see all the notches on our grips cause that’s how we keep track. Right?


18 posted on 05/20/2015 9:41:03 PM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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If Zimmerman had done something wrong, he still wouldn’t have his permit. All shootings have been good shoots. The other permit holders probably did the same or you can bet they would have told about it. Some people just need killin!


19 posted on 05/20/2015 9:45:47 PM PDT by chuckles
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...” the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”

cars kill, as I recall, something like 100 times as many people as all guns put together

let’s stop screwing around trying to (unconstitutionally) restrict or require permits or licenses or background checks or all the rest of the silly klaptrap infringements on our rights to bear arms.

let’s get to the real meat of the coconut and OUTLAW cars!


20 posted on 05/20/2015 10:25:21 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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