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Ted Nugent: ‘Best’ if South had won Civil War
Seattle Post intelligencer ^ | July 6, 2012 | N/A

Posted on 07/07/2012 4:51:17 AM PDT by raulgomez05

Aging rocker and reality TV personality Ted Nugent is emerging, even ahead of Donald Trump, as Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s most embarrassing public supporter.

Nugent is at it again, reacting to the Supreme Court’s ruling upholding the Affordable Care Act by writing in the Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s Washington Times that America would have been better off had the South won the Civil War.

A full Nugent rant, which might be subtitled “Robe Rage”:

“The bottom line is that Chief Justice Roberts’ traitor vote will ensure more monumental spending and wasted taxes and put almost 15 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product under one of the world’s most bureaucratic, ineffective, incompetent and grossly expensive systems ever devised by man: our out-of-control federal government.

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To: Georgia Girl 2

Re: Fact: We are all slaves now Dude

Agree, we are all slaves to the central government and the freeloaders who support it


121 posted on 07/07/2012 10:32:06 AM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: Vermont Lt
We can agree to disagree, but holding others in bondage is simply not right.

Which is Nugent's point. Lincoln's tyranny gave us a Federal government that in the span of less than two generations enslaved the rest of the nation. Go read the so called "Emancipation Proclamation" and ask yourself why Lincoln "freed" slaves in southern territory, but by decree did not in Federally held territory (even listing the parishes in Lousina that were not under Federal control at the time). You should see that "emancipation" was only an excuse to enslave the entire nation. Tyranny was not invented by B H Obama. He learned it from others, including the first Republican President.
122 posted on 07/07/2012 10:53:34 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: napscoordinator

Silly. There is no one denying those statistics. More homosexuals live in the North. Does that mean I’m saying you are a homosexual? Of course not!

Go back and read my post #86. Then, get back to me.


123 posted on 07/07/2012 10:57:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Who? Vote for WHO? Not Obama!!! Then WHO?)
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To: Vermont Lt

“But please do not pretend to be proud of defending slavery.”

I won’t if you won’t.

Only a liberal bigot from the North assumes the South was the only one with slavery and was defending it while the north was fighting to get rid of it. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The north did not in any way start or fight the war to end slavery. In fact, you yankee bigots claim the south started the war, so how could the north have possibly fought it to end slavery? I mean, is that an admission the north was about to invade the south to end slavery, because according to you bigots the south wasn’t going to end it so the north had to.


124 posted on 07/07/2012 11:00:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: SCalGal

“But no, the North marched in, set them free and walked away from them. “

Let’s not forget the Jim Crowe laws started in the North as the North tried to keep freed slaves from entering their State. Even Lincoln fought for laws to protect his home State of Illinois from allowing in freed slaves.

Funny thing about liberals and freeing things. My wife’s grandfather had a mink farm. When he died a bunch of liberals bought the place and set the little rascals free. They all died from starvation and being run over by cars on the roads.


125 posted on 07/07/2012 11:03:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Without it, there would have been no war.”

You keep saying that, NS, but you never provide an ounce of proof.


126 posted on 07/07/2012 11:14:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“And slavery was abolished without a war in my state. “

Actually, your State didn’t actually abolish slavery, it prohibited some of it, but you sure as Hell didn’t free any slaves. Way to half-ass the issue, as usual with your State.

“In 1777, Vermont, not yet a state, became the first jurisdiction in North America to prohibit slavery: slaves were not directly freed, but masters were required to remove slaves from Vermont. “


127 posted on 07/07/2012 11:20:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Vermont was also the first state to introduce homosexual unions. Not a State right now I’d be proud of. You guy shalf-assed the slavery issue by not freeing any slaves and then giving homosexuals marriage licenses.


128 posted on 07/07/2012 11:23:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

“I love America, therefore I support an insurrection that would have destroyed it.”

Who is to say we wouldn’t have loved the CSA even more? Right now I am not so proud of this country. Federalism has run this country into the ground and that primarily was started by Lincoln during the war. Who is say how things might have tuned out otherwise. You sure as Hell can’t say the recent supreme court decisions have been a great result for this country.

1. INCOME: The federal government has claimed the right to take 100% of our incomes through the income tax.

2. PROPERTY: The federal government has claimed it can take our properties through eminent domain to sell for government profit. (Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005)

3. MONEY/WEALTH: The federal government has claimed it can take whatever we have left in our pockets as a tax with this latest decision.

Therefore: You can earn nothing, possess nothing, and have nothing if the federal government calls it a tax.

The court also ruled things can be taxed that would otherwise be unconstitutional to make them constitutional. Yes, that was their twisted logic. So, assert your 5th amendment rights, get taxed. The government cannot force you to speak but your silence can be taxed according to this ruling. Doing nothing at all can be taxed.


129 posted on 07/07/2012 11:31:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: napscoordinator

“The South makes a ton less money then the North”

Maybe, maybe not, but I bet Southerners know to use “than” instead of “then” in that sentence.


130 posted on 07/07/2012 11:35:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The Civil War was about a states right to have slaves. What other ‘right’ were the southern states fighting for? None. It’s time to get passed that ‘feel-good’ analysis.

With that said, the Civil War would never have occurred if the South stopped pushing for the expansion of slavery into the territories (Read speeches by JC Calhoun and Jefferson Davis. It’s like listening to Hitler in English). Anyway, if the south would have simply accepted the containment of slavery and not pushed for expansion they probably would have bought 50 more years of cruelty to their fellow man as you suggest. But, the South kept pushing and pushing slavery expansion and this is was just unacceptable to people of goodwill.

The south started the Civil War by Shaking the Devils hand and they continued it by not letting go when the North asked them too. Sorry. I’m a Republican just like you but, no way does the south get to rewrite hoistory to make it feel better about itself.


131 posted on 07/07/2012 11:42:14 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: napscoordinator
"The South makes a ton less money then the North"

Got proof of that? Seems you talking out your bigot butt again.

You might want to look at this chart of all the State GDP figures and revise your BS remarks. State GDP

132 posted on 07/07/2012 11:49:57 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: chargers fan
>"Who is to say that slaves wouldn’t have been kept to run the machines?"

If it takes 40 slaves and 20 mules to manually plow the field. VS 1 slave to run a tractor.

What would they do with the 39 extra slaves?

Give em section 8 housing, food stamps, cell phones, car allowances, SSI disability for having inbred disabled offspring baby mamma bling, and order em to operate voting machines and vote D?

I see yer point.

133 posted on 07/07/2012 11:53:22 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: vetvetdoug

Agreed!!! There was indeed many slave holders in the north and racism was rampant. I certainly grant you that fact. Still, that does not overwrite the fact that the North ultimately had the ‘political will’ to end slavery.

To flip it around, I’m certain there were many people who hated slavery in the south as well but, the political will of the south was to maintain slavery. That’s just how it turned out.

I do agree that the north does have sort of a silent racism in their midst to this day. I’m a white guy from Oakland and went to school with mostly black kids and mostly good people. My white liberal friends think black people and minorites are like children who can’t vote, get an ID, or get into college and are always being harrassed by some ‘jack-booted’ white police officer. They know nothing beyond the cliche’s.

I’m actually not sure why more black people don’t feel patronized by white liberals.


134 posted on 07/07/2012 11:54:45 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

“I love America, therefore I support an insurrection that would have destroyed it.”

Maybe you enjoy the fact that these bigots also claim to love America but hate half of it, the South. I suppose you also hate the South but claim to love the country?


135 posted on 07/07/2012 11:55:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: central_va

Dude,

Insulting me does not make a very good argument. What exactly are you disagreeing with and what do you think?


136 posted on 07/07/2012 11:56:54 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: CodeToad

What makes you think I live in Vermont. Assumptions are stupid things to make.

Again, you are able to say that slavery should have been abolished.

What is the matter with you folks?


137 posted on 07/07/2012 11:58:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: Mustangman

“Still, that does not overwrite the fact that the North ultimately had the ‘political will’ to end slavery.”

So you admit the North invaded the South.


138 posted on 07/07/2012 11:58:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: CodeToad

Except I live in Mass. I went college in Vermont. A long time ago.

Why can’t you agree with the statement that slavery should have been abolished?


139 posted on 07/07/2012 11:59:52 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: Mustangman

“The Civil War was about a states right to have slaves. “

Was that the only issue of State’s rights or just the limit of your knowledge?


140 posted on 07/07/2012 12:01:03 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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