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Why Confederates are taken for granted! (Like conservatives today?)
Nolan Chart ^ | March 16, 2012 | Mark Vogl

Posted on 03/21/2012 7:21:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: beandog

El Kabong1= zotted Non-Sequitur aka retread zotted Drennan Whyte aka re-retread zotted KStater aka re-re-tread zotted SOJOCO


61 posted on 03/25/2012 8:47:31 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: El Kabong1

Baiting... GET LOST RETREAD TROLL!


62 posted on 03/25/2012 8:49:42 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: El Kabong1
"The mistake of Reconstruction was in giving “The Lost Cause” any seeds or fertile soil in which to sprout. We'd be a far different and better nation now if the traitors had been dealt with properly."

You mean like concentration camps and Zyclon B?

63 posted on 03/25/2012 8:57:23 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: El Kabong1; Las Vegas Ron; onyx; LucyT; little jeremiah; Brown Deer; manc; central_va; Idabilly; ...
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64 posted on 03/25/2012 9:02:24 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe

Alas my friend non sequitur........ where are you now?

Did you actually write such a horrible book? I still have other books you recommended


65 posted on 03/25/2012 9:06:57 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: El Kabong1

Hey NS back again. Same old NS.


66 posted on 03/25/2012 9:10:06 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: iowamark
If you think that the Civil War was not about slavery, you need to read the secession declarations adopted by the various states. They make it quite clear that they were fighting for slavery.

You are liar and are misrepresenting history. Below is a link to the ordinances of secession for the states of the south. Assuming you have the mental capacity to do a word search, the letters "slave" appears three times, in Alabama, Texas and Virginia only.

Ordinances of Secession

Southern haters are liars and statists.

67 posted on 03/25/2012 9:27:00 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Lowell1775
Abe Lincoln wanted to ship them all back to Africa as they were in his mind too stupid to co-exist with whites

Not true. The bastard with the tall hat wanted to ship some of "them" to Haiti also, not just Liberia.

68 posted on 03/25/2012 9:30:57 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: El Kabong1; mojitojoe; little jeremiah
rather than by chasing a story about his birth status that might prove equally detrimental to someone we may support in the future.

Don't look now but your troll panties just fell down.

You just admitted obama is not eligible but it's okay because it might hurt us down the road if we pursue the point.

69 posted on 03/25/2012 9:38:45 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Sherman Logan
I will respond on such threads in such a way that no honest person reading the thread will be able to come away saying that all conservatives are Confed sympathizers.

What an arrogant, stupid statement. You are the Hero of Free Republic, a man on a mission. LOL.

70 posted on 03/25/2012 9:41:04 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Texas Fossil
BUT, other of my ancestors were born in Texas during the Republic or Texas. That ancestor also fought in the CW and was captured and sent to prison in NY. After the War he walked from NY back to Texas.

Do you know the name of the POW camp he was in? One of my ancestors was in the 16th Georgia Infantry, was captured at Cold Harbor, ended up in the Elmira POW camp in NY, and died of diphtheria a few months later.

71 posted on 03/25/2012 9:43:13 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: El Kabong1
Sorry, but the Confederacy was the greatest act of treason in the history of the United States.

What proves you point is all of the treason trials and executions there were post Civil War. Oh, wait there were no treason trials during reconstruction, never mind.

72 posted on 03/25/2012 9:46:05 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

I don’t know but I can find out. Doubt there were many such camps in NY.


73 posted on 03/25/2012 10:58:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: central_va

The choice not to try the leaders of the Confederacy after the was was primarily political, and was conditioned upon their signing new pledges of allegiance to the U.S.

The old South should venerate Lincoln, since he was the one who laid the groundwork for reconciliation, rather than the legal retribution desired by the
radical reconstructionists.


74 posted on 03/25/2012 11:03:37 AM PDT by El Kabong1
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To: Liberty Valance

Not at all. I mean public trials of people like Davis, Lee, Longstreet, and the other bona fide leaders of the rebellion. Think Guy Fawkes - the real one.


75 posted on 03/25/2012 11:03:53 AM PDT by El Kabong1
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To: Pelham

It was true then as well. Washington had the advantage of being the victor in that particular contest, so we venerate his service. What do you think would have happened to him and the other Founding Fathers if the French and Hessians hadn’t supported his efforts and the revolution had been snuffed out by the British?

They’d all be nothing more than minor footnotes in British history.


76 posted on 03/25/2012 11:04:58 AM PDT by El Kabong1
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To: El Kabong1
I mean public trials of people like Davis, Lee, Longstreet, and the other bona fide leaders of the rebellion."

You want to dig them up and try them for things that happened 150 years ago? The South lost that war. 600,000 men on both sides lost their lives in the course of it. Sorry reconstruction didn't work out the way you wanted but we seem to have a current administration that is taking up your cause. You should be very happy with their policies.

77 posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:09 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: El Kabong1
The United States would have been far better served by holding every surviving Confederate officer accountable in the federal courts or military tribunals in the states of the rebellion, with punishment imposed according to the standards of the time.

The mistake of Reconstruction was in giving “The Lost Cause” any seeds or fertile soil in which to sprout. We'd be a far different and better nation now if the traitors had been dealt with properly.

Had that happened, Southern partisans may very well have turned to guerrilla warfare, and the fighting may have gone on for years afterwards.

78 posted on 03/25/2012 12:50:21 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: central_va; El Kabong1
What proves you point is all of the treason trials and executions there were post Civil War. Oh, wait there were no treason trials during reconstruction, never mind.

Jefferson Davis and El Kabong1 are in agreement on the issue of treason trials. Davis wanted to be tried for treason so he could use the trial to argue his case, but the Yankees chickened out and never brought him to trial.

79 posted on 03/25/2012 12:58:40 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: El Kabong1
Armed insurrection against the government is always treason.

Not necessarily. Surf over here for a powerful argument that armed insurrection against the government can sometimes be patriotic.

80 posted on 03/25/2012 1:06:05 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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