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Challenge: A Scriptural Portrait of Mary
The Bible | 1/1/7 | pjr12345

Posted on 01/02/2007 11:46:14 AM PST by pjr12345

Below are all the biblical references to Mary, the mother of Jesus that I could locate. Anything beyond Scriptural references is conjecture, the philosophies of men and not God.

Would anyone care to construct a Scripturally accurate portrait of Mary, leaving behind extra-biblical sources?

Please include your Scriptural references in support of your description.

Isaiah 7:13-14

Matthew 1:13-25; 2:11, 14, 20-21; 12: 46-50; 13:54-56

Mark 3:31-35; 6:3

Luke 1:26-56; 2:1-7, 16-19, 27, 33-35, 39, 41-51; 8:19-21

John 2:1-12; 6:41-42; 19:25-26

Acts 1:14


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Heated Discussion; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: another; bashingthread; mary; motherofgod; nativity; virgin
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1 posted on 01/02/2007 11:46:17 AM PST by pjr12345
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To: pjr12345
Anything beyond Scriptural references is conjecture, the philosophies of men and not God.

On what authority do you base this claim. Are you God? Did God tell you this personally?
2 posted on 01/02/2007 11:49:00 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: pjr12345
Anything beyond Scriptural references is conjecture, the philosophies of men and not God.

This is conjecture, the philosophy of men.

3 posted on 01/02/2007 11:49:35 AM PST by Titanites
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To: kawaii

If you're not interested in the challenge, then don't post.


4 posted on 01/02/2007 11:49:47 AM PST by pjr12345
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To: Titanites

ditto: If you're not interested in the challenge, then you don't need to post.


5 posted on 01/02/2007 11:50:42 AM PST by pjr12345
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To: pjr12345

Just wondering from where you derive the authority to say what is and isn't the inspired word of God.


6 posted on 01/02/2007 11:50:50 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

Not needed on this thread. It assumes that those posting already accept the Supremacy of Scripture.


7 posted on 01/02/2007 11:51:55 AM PST by pjr12345
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To: pjr12345

Xnooze.


8 posted on 01/02/2007 11:52:28 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: pjr12345
ditto: If you're not interested in the challenge, then you don't need to post.

You have this listed under "General Discussion", and I am discussing the premise of your challenge, which is false.

9 posted on 01/02/2007 11:55:57 AM PST by Titanites
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To: pjr12345; Kolokotronis

Revelation 11:19 - 12:17.

(If you're in the mood, K. :-).


10 posted on 01/02/2007 11:56:05 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: pjr12345

Which is a crazy idea for those who accept the Supremacy of only God.


11 posted on 01/02/2007 11:59:51 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii; Titanites

You do have bibles, don't you?


12 posted on 01/02/2007 12:01:47 PM PST by pjr12345
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To: pjr12345

Wonderful challenge.

Thanks.


13 posted on 01/02/2007 12:03:51 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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Funny, even after reading your verses, I couldn't find where Mary ascended in to heaven....nor could I find where she remained a virgin her whole life....nor could I find where she handed down the rosary to man.......I could not even find where it says she is a co-redeemer! It must be in there because I swear I heard some guy on TV say it was so.......which is much more authoritative than the inspired word of God. ***extreme sarcasm alert****
14 posted on 01/02/2007 12:09:57 PM PST by texan75010
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To: pjr12345

Yeah 'cept they aren't the Supremely Powerful English Language Better than the Originals versions y'all bandy about.


15 posted on 01/02/2007 12:10:50 PM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Tax-chick; kawaii; Titanites

"Revelation 11:19 - 12:17.

(If you're in the mood, K. :-)"

Of late, the protestants have been on quite a tear about the Most Holy Theotokos. In fact, for the past 100 years or so they've been on that tear. I'm only in the mood to advise this to our brethren in The Church, TC:

By "Contentions," he means, with heretics, in which he would not have us labor to no purpose, where nothing is to be gained, for they end in nothing. For when a man is perverted and predetermined not to change his mind, whatever may happen, why shouldest thou labor in vain, sowing upon a rock, when thou shouldest spend thy honorable toil upon thy own people, in discoursing with them upon almsgiving and every other virtue?

How then does he elsewhere say, "If God peradventure will give them repentance"; but here, "A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject, knowing that he that is such is subverted and sinneth, being condemned of himself"? In the former passage he speaks of the correction of those of whom he had hope, and who had simply made opposition. But when he is known and manifest to all, why dost thou contend in vain? why dost thou beat the air? What means, "being condemned of himself"? Because he cannot say that no one has told him, no one admonished him; since therefore after admonition he continues the same, he is self-condemned." +John Chrysostomos; Homily VI on Titus


16 posted on 01/02/2007 12:35:05 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: pjr12345; kawaii
Would anyone care to construct a Scripturally accurate portrait of Mary, leaving behind extra-biblical sources?

Challenge accepted.

And I'll go you one further. Let's take kawaii's wise advice, toss out our English translations (they are extra-biblical) and take out our Greek New Testaments and our Liddell and Scott Greek lexicons.

We're gonna do this in the original. :)

17 posted on 01/02/2007 12:38:04 PM PST by Claud
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I'm curious why you didn't quote the actual passages, in their original languages, rather than numbers and English Language names.

I'm sure you realize that these scriptures were not authored by English speakers, nor were they written in English.


18 posted on 01/02/2007 12:42:49 PM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

I certainly could have. However, I don't see what possible useful purpose it would have served.


19 posted on 01/02/2007 12:48:57 PM PST by pjr12345
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To: pjr12345

Bunch of references here.
http://www.gospels.net/translations/infancyjamestranslation.html

BTW if you don't regard that as scripture can you please explain why not?


20 posted on 01/02/2007 12:49:07 PM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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