New JAMA paper show Ivermectin blows the COVID vaccines out of the water

substack.com ^ | 2/23/2022 | Steve Kirsch

[ransomnote]

Whoops! How embarrassing! The CDC gave you bad advice. If you want to survive COVID, you should use the drug they said to avoid, and avoid the drug they said to use.

Steve Kirsch

15 hr ago

 

Remember that “horse dewormer” that the FDA, CDC, NIH, CNN, and Sanjay Gupta all told you not to use? A new paper recently published in the Journal of the AMA (JAMA) shows that Ivermectin works way better than the COVID vaccine in keeping you from dying from COVID.

This was an open-label randomized trial done in Malaysia with around 250 patients in each arm. One arm got IVM + standard of care, the other arm got the standard of care.

Of course, JAMA never would have published this if they thought that people would actually look at the data. The abstract says: “The study findings do not support the use of ivermectin for patients with COVID-19.” You are supposed to read the abstract and believe that ivermectin has no effect.

In fact, that’s exactly what people do even when you tell them expressly to ignore that:

Do not fall for it. Read the paper if you want the truth. If you want to be misled, just read the abstract.

Pierre Kory did a brilliant takedown of the paper on his substack. I won’t repeat that here. Instead, I’ll just summarize the data for you; the hidden gems in the paper that you are never supposed to notice.

The data

The lower the p-value, the more significant the result is. A Chi-squared test was used. Data came from the JAMA paper appendix.

Interpretation of the data

So there are five takeaways from the study:

1. Vaccine efficacy in the real world is quite small. If you got vaccinated, it reduced your chance of death by just 24%. However, the study did NOT look at the all-cause mortality of the vaccine (it only enrolled people who survived the vaccine), so the tiny absolute risk reduction you get from a 24% relative risk reduction (roughly 24% of .25% =.06% benefit) is less than the absolute risk of dying from the vaccine (around .2%). See Incriminating Evidence for details on this.

2. If you were not vaccinated (which you shouldn’t be), ivermectin reduced your chance of death by 72%. So it was 3 times more effective than the vaccine. But the risk of ivermectin is negligible so the risk-benefit ratio is extremely favorable. Ivermectin has a 3X effect size (benefit) and is more than 100,000X less risky with respect to death risk, killing nobody (compared to over 200,000 people from the vaccine). So it’s the clear choice. It’s the only rational choice.
   
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[5by5]

They’re hiding behind “results lack statistical significance.” I think this was intentional. In the study design, they need to estimate the effect, and then power the study (number of subjects) so that the results are significant.

The effect seems to be there but there weren’t enough test subjects for the results to be significant (ie, not attributable to chance).

[WhattheDickens?]

PING!!

[TLI]

HAHAHAHAHA!!

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[Triple]

This makes sense to me!

[max americana]

because the original REUTERS article was false.

The chairman of Reuters sits on the board PFIZER, and was called out for it.

*******
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Reuters ‘Fact Check’ Shields Pfizer CEO, Fails to Disclose Reuters Chairman Is on Pfizer Board

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4029574/posts

[Only1choice____Freedom]

Ziverdo works
Kept my wife out of the hospital when she got Covid.
She hadn’t eaten in 2 days and was getting weaker.
Day one, she was up in 7 hours and eating.
Day two, normal diet and she started recovering
Day three much better and she reocvered

[Faith65]

Thanks, RN!
BKMK

[Jane Long]

😎

[Jane Long]

Unjabbed protection, against death: 72%

Jabbed protection, against death: 67%

OVERALL protection (for UNjabbed, and jabbed): 69%

Take that, FRAUDci and the FR $hot $hills

[Night Hides Not]

My wife and I just cured it with IVM and went very well. No vax.

I caught it for the second time six weeks ago, dropping 30 pounds in a week. My doctor prescribed IVM, HCQ, and two other drugs. That was on a Tuesday.

Although I was still rather weak, I was able to go back to work the following Monday. No vax for me, either...not gonna happen.

No need for the vax, my antibodies are off the charts.

[no-to-illegals]

We have to define “normal and normally behaved”. LOL

[Delta 21]

The queen of the Britons gets ivermectin.
I think that’s what I will have.

[kvanbrunt2]

the Kory link was worth a read.

[WASCWatch]

I knew this 22 months ago.

[avenir]

“Time to get my 4th shot...Yet people still will. Unreal.”

I look at the billionaire weirdos and governments promoting globalism and communistic claptrap, and pushing for medical tyranny with their passport fait accompli and I see mass murder ahead.

It wasn’t that long ago that millions died due to:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT

https://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

[gas_dr]

It is amazing how you carry water for a site and a person that blatantly twists the truth. This analysis is totally bogus and the paper and conclusion clearly state and data show that whether vaccinated or not, ivermectin does nothing to stop the progression of disease.

It gets more and more bizarre what you will believe.

[bagster]

This analysis is totally bogus and the paper and conclusion clearly state and data show that whether vaccinated or not, ivermectin does nothing to stop the progression of disease.

I'm starting to wonder how you passed med school. Did you have some Chinese kid take the tests for you? Is your daddy a Senator or somethin'?

Pro-tip: Read the words in the article. And show up for class next time.

[bagster]

Unjabbed protection, against death: 72%
Jabbed protection, against death: 67%
OVERALL protection (for UNjabbed, and jabbed): 69%
Take that, FRAUDci and the FR $hot $hills

Don't forget this party, Janey (take notes, gassie)....

But the risk of ivermectin is negligible so the risk-benefit ratio is extremely favorable. Ivermectin has a 3X effect size (benefit) and is more than 100,000X less risky with respect to death risk, killing nobody (compared to over 200,000 people from the vaccine). So it’s the clear choice. It’s the only rational choice.

The moral of this story is; the poison vax kills, ivermectin does not. This FACT is factored in, of course.

[gas_dr]

First of all Jane has asked that I not respond to her. So please stop pinging her to the posts.

Secondly, I am sorry you cannot understand simple scientific papers. The Jama article open labeled randomized precisely states it’s findings. Now you can twist it and look for penumbras and shadows all you want. But the data are the data. This article and numerous others do not support that ivermectin does much for Covid.

However, in the past week with cases dwindling, I was able to help to relatively early cases with monoclonals. Patents were better the next day. So you are feee to continue to follow this clown who posts on a discredited blog and has very little insight like her is your pied piper. You are free to believe wherever you want.

But it is plain you chose to not understand what is written and have little insight into the disease. The reason why I don’t respond much to you is because you never really add anything to the conversation. But I responded here because I wanted to point out the length that some around here stretch the math beyond its limits to show something that plainly does not exist.

Happily the pandemic is over and there is little use in this ongoing debate.

The fact is ivermectin is weakly effective, if at all. There is no consensus among the studies. You can cherry pick and twist data into pretzels all you want, but the totality of the overall data show a very low level beneficial effect if there is benefit at all

On the other hand there is no question monoclonals are superior treatment on every way to other current of label medication uses.

Have a good night.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

I caught it for the second time six weeks ago, dropping 30 pounds in a week. My doctor prescribed IVM, HCQ, and two other drugs. That was on a Tuesday.
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If not a problem could you identify the other two drugs prescribed?