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My Idea: ALLOW ALL 16 YEAR OLDS TO TAKE THE GED TEST

Posted on 09/24/2020 11:40:46 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

Many will pass. Then what?


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To: humblegunner

That would involve work with no profit.


61 posted on 09/24/2020 1:17:15 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I hate to point this out. Fractions are easy.


They are easy for you and me, but for kids who have to use a calculator to do two-digit addition...Few 8th graders are able to cope with fractions, and as I said, that used to be considered a 5th-grade skill.

As for drug sales, I think grams (and the metric system) have replaced ounces.


62 posted on 09/24/2020 1:17:56 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Arcadian Empire
That would involve work with no profit.

And I should, instead, explain things to you which have
already been clearly established for no profit?

Again I think not.

63 posted on 09/24/2020 1:24:32 PM PDT by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Trade/technical schools often require a high school diploma or a GED for entrance, unless you consider those schools to not be further education. Then, with the training from those schools, you enter the job market. Not seeing this as a screwy at all, really.


64 posted on 09/24/2020 1:33:40 PM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: DIRTYSECRET

As a Juvenile Probation Officer I advised many of my clients to take the GED but then told them to go to the local community college and take some simple basic classes because then they could put on a job application the highest level of education was “one semester of College”


65 posted on 09/24/2020 1:46:52 PM PDT by 20yearvet (they yell for more tests as long as its your money)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Allow any child of any age to take the GED!

My homeschoolers started college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13.

Because they did not have a GED they were barred from all scholarships.

66 posted on 09/24/2020 1:52:11 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Retrofitted
There's nothing wrong with trade schools. Graduate high school, then go to trade school. Personally, I think there are some academic basics that people should require for themselves regardless of post-secondary education choices. There is significant illiteracy in mathematics and sciences in this country. I don't expect everyone to go on to be a mathematician, but the basics (up to trigonometry) help in nearly all trades. The GED does not test for those things. It is incredibly easy.

My assessment of the GED is quite simple: it is aiming low, really low. People should be aiming higher than what is taught in high school, not less. Most high school teachers are ignoramuses that they are barely educated. They mostly have degrees in teaching, which is worthless. (I'm not picking on all teachers by the way, it's the 99% that give the 1% a bad reputation.) So whether you go to high school or home school or do distance learning, the name of the game is doing more than what they expect in government schools. This by the way is not time consuming if done right. Half the crap that they do in government schools is busy work. Cut the busy work and focus on real learning (that most certainly does not appear on the GED).

67 posted on 09/24/2020 1:52:19 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: wintertime
My homeschoolers started college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13.

They probably got beat up by the normal students.

68 posted on 09/24/2020 1:56:38 PM PDT by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Why should a good student sacrifice two years of their lives ( and earnings) staying in prison ( oops! “school”) because other children are lazy or stupid?


69 posted on 09/24/2020 1:58:55 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Always been a believer in tech schools. After the USN, I went back to college, got a BA, and parlayed that into some good jobs. But I’ve always enjoyed working with my hands and wished I’d done one of the trade jobs instead. As you say...it’s too late now. I make up for it in hobbies. :~]

Many kids would benefit from learning a trade...even thru the military. Learning the trade, doing a great job for people...you’ll always have work. The neighbors and I kvetch constantly about the lack of skilled, trustworthy people to work on our houses. If we find someone we like...they’re put on our speed-dials...and we pass their names around.


70 posted on 09/24/2020 1:59:58 PM PDT by moovova
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To: DIRTYSECRET

You neglected to list any justification...I call BS vanity.

Sorry, but what else are we to think?


71 posted on 09/24/2020 2:02:18 PM PDT by citizen (Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars. A,ll the other genders you make up are from Uranus.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“for all college courses. If you pass, you get credit.”

My wife was a 4.0 HS student 40 years ago when it meant something. She tested out of all her biology and chemistry classes Fresh and Sophmore level in college.

I barely made it out of HS as a C student and flunked out of college and eventually went back and got my degree.

Funny, for most of our married life I made almost double what she did.(self employed)


72 posted on 09/24/2020 2:18:54 PM PDT by setter
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To: 4yearlurker
My uncle actually dropped out of high school and passed the admission test to get into Harvard, of all places. They allowed that back in the 1950s. He worked in the corporate world, including overseas postings and later earned a PhD to teach at the college level.

During family reunions, people would ask him questions and, if he didn't care to answer, he'd shrug and say "How do you expect me to know? I'm a high school drop-out."

73 posted on 09/24/2020 2:41:24 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Many will pass. Then what?

Then they can vote? /S

74 posted on 09/24/2020 2:52:51 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I agree with your idea. Get the GED, then go to community college or trade school at 16. Actually, students might not even have to take the GED. Many homeschoolers start community college by 16 without a GED, but some majors might require it.


75 posted on 09/24/2020 3:05:38 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: DIRTYSECRET

A businessman in PA, before the Trump rally (protest against stupidity) said that:

A welder will make over his lifetime MORE money than a lawyer over the same time period.

I said to my self, WHAT???? then why the heck send kids to a University?

It just shows how Great the USA is, anyone can make it, even with (or without) a GED.


76 posted on 09/24/2020 4:15:39 PM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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To: Toughluck_freeper

You folks are wonderful. 4 and a half hours-76 responses. It’s like waking up and finding someone else’s finger up your a$$.


77 posted on 09/24/2020 6:48:51 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Ok-so a 15 year old buys a 3” thick textbook that covers the 3 r’s. All the adult family members are available to help with the details. U all know it can get the job done for free. How about for-profit courses that teach sciences at a storefront lab just to cover the hands-on stuff?


78 posted on 09/24/2020 6:54:37 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: redcatcherb412
Must be a state rule.

It is a state rule. States have any number of weird rules to keep their control over minors. The goal is to keep them in public school as long as they can.

In my state I wanted to hire someone to clerk in my store a couple of days a week during the summer. There were several young people who were interested but the local school board, who does not like me, refused to give them work permits. I ended up having to hire from the next county.

79 posted on 09/24/2020 7:06:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I love it. if they pass the test there will be a lot more work for them beyond your 2 days. There’s 7 days a week. Let them. I’m 66 and I’ll give them a free ride if they don’t have a license or car. It’s like those Amish who wanted to vote Trump for the first time but had no autos to take them to the polls.


80 posted on 09/24/2020 7:23:25 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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