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Dr. Helen Smith, why men are avoiding marriage - short video
Dr Helen Smith, Men on Strike

Posted on 12/23/2019 11:29:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man

https://youtu.be/BoXQf2f2Yxo


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: alimomy; divorce; marriage; mgtow; prison; pua; redpill
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To: Secret Agent Man

Honestly, after growing up watching my parents fight like mad cats and then get divorced, and witnessing dad lose claim to everything and have to move in with his mother (with nothing to his name), I definitely put off the thought of ever marrying a woman.

I finally got hitched this year in my mid-40’s after a lengthy co-habitation with my then girlfriend. We lived together for about 5 years, so we decided to get married. That risk of losing everything I worked for is still in the back of my mind though. Womyns liberation hasn’t done anything to reform and ‘equalize’ an abusive court system. The only advantage I have is not having children.


21 posted on 12/24/2019 2:57:38 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: KobraKai

It’s the major imbalance in power, thanks to the current family court system, that makes men leery about marriage. I’ve seen too many guy friends burned.


22 posted on 12/24/2019 2:59:23 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others.)
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To: lurk

I wish you and your wife the very best of outcomes, my FRiend.


23 posted on 12/24/2019 3:01:23 AM PST by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: caww

I don’t think income/finances are the biggest hurdle; I would have a much harder time accepting that some other “guy of the month” is sleeping in my former home - especially if I had daughters.

It isn’t a perfect solution, but marrying someone from a culture that doesn’t accept divorce helps.


24 posted on 12/24/2019 3:20:07 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Now the sons of men who got burned are shunning marriage.

Once Judeo-Christian norms were mocked and marginalized, I don’t know why anyone expected a different outcome. Stable marriages (in most cases) were a benefit of those norms that people apparently took for granted.


25 posted on 12/24/2019 3:24:03 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: lurk

Prayers for both of you, and congratulations on a sound and loving marriage.


26 posted on 12/24/2019 3:25:07 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Yaelle

While certainly either partner can be at fault in the failure of a marriage, the reactions of the two groups to this current state of affairs is very different - leading me to believe the men certainly feel they risk much more. In the end, if she just meets someone with more money, that may be enough - the guy is out of the house, and out of the children’s day-to-day lives.


27 posted on 12/24/2019 3:30:23 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SauronOfMordor

“It’s the major imbalance in power, thanks to the current family court system”

It depends on the jurisdiction you are in, to some degree, I think.

I was never a fan of the concept of a pre-nuptual agreement until after i went through a contested child custody battle. I do not know if a prenup even has any legal value. But having gone through the nasty divorce, I would expect the woman I am planning to marry to more than understand my motives for wanting one, and to understand that my reasoning is simply a leveling of the legal playing field. I put it this way: women have a defacto “post-nup” written into the law which gives them an advantage when children are involved...why can we not balance it.


28 posted on 12/24/2019 3:31:23 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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My amicable divorce was to sell everything for pennies on the dollar and split 50/50.

I am glad it is over, and I don’t make myself available for whatever reason she wants be friendly. My ex alienated all of her friends and family and doesn’t understand why she’s lonely.

I’m in no mood to start another relationship with anyone and I haven’ been for years. It was that fugly.


29 posted on 12/24/2019 3:36:20 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

This is from 2013 so one thing has changed. More men are working but the other two things are still in play and will likely remain that way as long as the system is rigged against the men.


30 posted on 12/24/2019 4:05:43 AM PST by Boomer ('Democrat' is now synonymous with 'corrupt')
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To: Yaelle

It is not GENDERS it is SEXES.


31 posted on 12/24/2019 4:23:35 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: yldstrk

not gender sexes.


32 posted on 12/24/2019 4:24:08 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I didn’t get married until I was 32. We’ve been married going on 37 years. She wanted to be as homemaker, and I was fine with that. We lived within our means but did not deprive ourselves. We are living a comfortable retirement with a mortgage-free house and no consumer debt.


33 posted on 12/24/2019 5:01:59 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

I didn’t get married until I was 32. We’ve been married going on 37 years. She wanted to be as homemaker, and I was fine with that. We lived within our means but did not deprive ourselves. We are living a comfortable retirement with a mortgage-free house and no consumer debt.

Of course, I married a girl from the Deep South. The ONLY way to go!


34 posted on 12/24/2019 5:03:33 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: kearnyirish2

“Once Judeo-Christian norms were mocked and marginalized, I don’t know why anyone expected a different outcome. Stable marriages (in most cases) were a benefit of those norms that people apparently took for granted.”

So very true.


35 posted on 12/24/2019 5:05:17 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Because the woman can divorce him on a whim and take the kids, the house, half his money, the good car, the dog, and leave him with the cat, while he searches for a apartment that he can afford?

Because employers trip over themselves to hire women, and men have a hard time finding jobs, especially if they’re over 40?


36 posted on 12/24/2019 5:05:27 AM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: 60Gunner

Without Respect, marriage is abysmal for a man. With regular genuine respect resistance is futile.


37 posted on 12/24/2019 5:20:09 AM PST by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: KobraKai
BINGO! My Brother has lost just about everything including his House, Military Pension, Civilian Pension, Kid and Mental health because of a corrupt and one sided court system. The man is automatically to blame and must be punished. It makes me sick.
38 posted on 12/24/2019 5:20:16 AM PST by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: lurk

I, too, am serving my wife of 45 years. I pray it does not come down to chemo.

I am trying syrosingopine plus metformin. Looks good on paper, no results yet.


39 posted on 12/24/2019 5:51:25 AM PST by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Them woman. They be crazy.... : )


40 posted on 12/24/2019 5:56:57 AM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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