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If This Is Trump’s Best Case, The Ukraine Scandal Is Looking Really Bad For Him
fivethirtyeight ^ | 09/25/2019 | Nate Silver

Posted on 09/26/2019 10:29:47 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Sometimes, when a news story is still unfolding in real time, we can’t do much better than to hazard a guess about how it will affect the polls. Of course, we can also not hazard a guess — that is, we can not say anything about it at all. But given that I wrote yesterday about public opinion surrounding the impeachment of President Trump, this is one time when I think it’s worth weighing in on the latest development; namely, the White House’s decision to release, on Wednesday, Trump’s reconstructed conversation (note: not a verbatim transcript) with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.

This conversation seems to have triggered a nearly Yanny or Laurel-like reaction in my Twitter feed, almost as though people are seeing and hearing two different things. Everyone either seems to think it’s either really bad for Trump, or not very damaging at all, with few people landing in between.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.com ...


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: antitrumper; clickbait; fivethirtyeight; impeachment; liar; lyinglimolib; natesilver; scandal; shill; trump; trumpimpeachment; trumpukraine; twitter; ukraine; volodymyrzelensky
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To: SaveFerris
Synagogue of Satan everywhere you look. Sorry, this is who is leading this coup.
41 posted on 09/26/2019 10:55:44 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: SaveFerris

If it were a recording from the Ukraine web site, it might mean something. But you KNOW they’ll pass it off as locker room bluster like mines bigger kind of crap to show how bad ass you are. Kind of like his claim of putting ‘corn pop’ and his posse in their place back in the day. “Take ‘em out behind the gym!” BS. “Fire that shotgun in the air from the balcony!” Riding the blusterville express. :-)


42 posted on 09/26/2019 10:55:53 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Verginius Rufus
...Mike Murphy claimed that 30 Republican Senators would vote to convict Trump if they could vote secretly.

That could well be an accurate count of the RINO coalition that has been sandbagging Trump or quietly working against him during his term. Murphy would know if these guys were playing for the other team.

43 posted on 09/26/2019 10:57:25 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Arguing the Founders intended the weakest of 2 possible forms of NBC for our leader is a scam.)
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To: Vendome

44 posted on 09/26/2019 10:58:28 AM PDT by Conserv ( b)
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To: rktman

Oh of course. You’ll never convince the fools.

I mean Democrats. But it’s still good to get Joe’s words out there. Joe’s words are always fun.


45 posted on 09/26/2019 10:59:13 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: treetopsandroofs

[Big media calls this “unsubstantiated”.]

Of course. The one substantiating Joe Biden’s crime of influence-peddling is -— Joe Biden.

Never believe what Joe Biden said about Joe Biden. /Liberal Media

Joe Biden can’t be trusted, obviously.


46 posted on 09/26/2019 11:00:58 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Read about the boss of Burisma:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykola_Zlochevsky


47 posted on 09/26/2019 11:05:35 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Fivethirtyeight...well that says it all. Desperation on open display.


48 posted on 09/26/2019 11:11:29 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Alberta's Child

He looks like a fat Pud...


49 posted on 09/26/2019 11:14:59 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: jmacusa

He predicted Obama’s first win correctly and has been coasting on his own coat tails ever since.


50 posted on 09/26/2019 11:16:58 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Mr. Nate “95% Hillary” Silver.

Living off of a reputation. Yawn.


51 posted on 09/26/2019 11:27:18 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Conserv; Grampa Dave; musicman; Fiddlstix; Travis McGee; Diogenesis; Bon mots

52 posted on 09/26/2019 11:27:51 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Hahah 538, the place that said Hillary’s odds of winning in 16 were what? 90%+ on election day?


53 posted on 09/26/2019 11:28:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

On election night, it was hysterical how Silver had to keep downgrading Hillary’s chances.


54 posted on 09/26/2019 11:31:25 AM PDT by Conserv ( b)
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To: BeauBo

What ever happened to Bagdad Bob?

I always felt bad for him.

He was the ultimate salesman.

I would have hired him. He could sell anything.


55 posted on 09/26/2019 11:31:37 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963
What ever happened to Bagdad Bob?

I was wondering about that myself. His Wiki page doesn't say. I was a little surprised to learn that he has a degree in mining engineering from the University of Arizona. Apparently we arrested him, questioned him, and let him go. Poor guy missed his calling - he could have made a fortune making TV commercials for used car dealers.

56 posted on 09/26/2019 11:37:57 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ChicagoConservative27

https://twitter.com/TrollasaurusRx/status/1176593476668002304


57 posted on 09/26/2019 11:44:34 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: jmacusa
On election day here is the 538 predictions for the electoral college with a 71.4% chance of Hillary winning.

Hillary Clinton 302.2

Donald Trump 235.0

Evan McMullin 0.8

Gary Johnson 0.0

58 posted on 09/26/2019 11:45:06 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It isn’t “Trump’s” reconstruction. It is the standard transcript done for presidential phone calls, by two people well-trained in listening to conversations, taking notes, and recreating the conversations.


59 posted on 09/26/2019 11:51:01 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Conserv

Nate Silver is a putz... he’s a partisan pundit that tries to pretend he’s a statistician...

538 is fine for things like sports, but WORTHLESS when it comes to politics.

Attempting to use math to justify your punditry is not science, or statistics.


60 posted on 09/26/2019 11:58:10 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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