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Flynn Judgment Thread
various | 12/18/2018 | struggle

Posted on 12/18/2018 6:59:55 AM PST by struggle

This is the thread for reaction to results of Flynn ruling - from 9:30 EST.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 19meetings; flynn; michaelflynn; mueller; trumprussia; turkeyconnection
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To: CondorFlight

Is this the way of the judge to really making it clear to Flynn that he wants the general to withdraw his plea?


101 posted on 12/18/2018 9:14:17 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Isn’t Turke a NATO member and considered an Allie


102 posted on 12/18/2018 9:15:24 AM PST by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Steven W.

Interesting. Best and most positive scenario I can imagine.


103 posted on 12/18/2018 9:18:07 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ScaniaBoy

A suggestion on FOX -the judge is trying to find what out exactly Flynn gave to the JD to get such a light sentence.


104 posted on 12/18/2018 9:18:39 AM PST by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: McGavin999

Yes, and don’t forget how feted the Turkish intelligence operators were last month by all the high and mighty swamp denizens.


105 posted on 12/18/2018 9:19:03 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

His Turkey connections had nothing to do with the Logan act. He wasn’t interfering in US foreign policy. His firm was hired to do a puff documentary on Turkey and to do research on an opposition candidate in Turkey. If that is treason, then half of DC should be hung - starting with the Podesta’s


106 posted on 12/18/2018 9:20:35 AM PST by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yeah, Flynn’s trying to figure out how to swing this.

Mueller already said he doesn’t want any real sentence, so there’s no real danger. He doesn’t want dismissal and to then be tried for Turkey.


107 posted on 12/18/2018 9:20:41 AM PST by struggle
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To: ScaniaBoy
At this point, I would think that if Flynn is trying to take the easy way out, and avoid a trial, that the Judge should hit him hard.

Because, it seems to me that Flynn has made the decision to choose Mueller's side over Trump's.

Good riddance, Flynn, and enjoy prison.

108 posted on 12/18/2018 9:21:05 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Recess to confer with his lawyers.......

The judge seems to be trying to bump Flynn to do something in his defense.

There are too many lobbyists that don't register....and conviction of the same is extremely rare.

109 posted on 12/18/2018 9:22:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart

if what Flynn did was so bad, it wasn't treated as treason; and now announces a recess after saying that the court had never taken a guilty plea from an innocent person.

In short, sounds like Sullivan is trying his damndest to let Flynn walk and trying to expose the gubment.

110 posted on 12/18/2018 9:22:38 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Sacajaweau

>The judge seems to be trying to bump Flynn to do something in his defense.

Yeah, I think the judge has been told to try to get Flynn to dump the plea so they can kill him on Turkey.


111 posted on 12/18/2018 9:23:21 AM PST by struggle
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment; Sacajaweau
I think there are quite a few people who are starting to see what is going on in the same light as we do. However:

Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart

I think Sullivan was warning Flynn one last time that what he has done was extremely severe (in Sullivan's eyes) & could warrant big prison.

IOW, poor Flynn is being squeezed between prosecutors who have him on something else (Turkey) & who can further bankrupt him . . .

...and a judge trying to do the right thing but who, if no one will play ball, is gonna kick Flynn's butt.

112 posted on 12/18/2018 9:25:56 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
In short, sounds like Sullivan is trying his damndest to let Flynn walk and trying to expose the gubment.

That's sort of how I read it. But Flynn doesn't want to be the one to stand up and fight Mueller.

113 posted on 12/18/2018 9:26:10 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: ScaniaBoy

What the judge is doing is a mystery to me. It’s clear from the 302 that Flynn was doing regular outreach.


114 posted on 12/18/2018 9:27:41 AM PST by struggle
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To: CaptainK

No....It’s not about Flynn....It’s about Mueller....and making Mueller into a good guy. Mueller doesn’t give a damn about Flynn.


115 posted on 12/18/2018 9:28:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: struggle; Pelham

I am ignorant of all of this

But if Flynn was acting NSA while representing foreign nations like I think Turkey

I’m pretty sure that wrong

Anyone feel free to edumacate me


116 posted on 12/18/2018 9:32:23 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: CaptainK

FOX is out to lunch obviously. But what else is new?


117 posted on 12/18/2018 9:33:01 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: wardaddy

I think the reason is that Flynn need a guilty plea to get an overreaching pardon that protects him from Mueller.

I suspect the declass comes with the pardon.


118 posted on 12/18/2018 9:37:16 AM PST by struggle
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To: struggle

My totally amateur interpretation. The judge thinks he has a lot to say and do re the prosecution, but unless Flynn withdraws his plea he is forced to follow through with the sentencing. It is a very public trial. Quite a few people are aware that Flynn is pleading guilty to something that was not a crime. The judge does not like to be put in the role of the bad judge.

(I was about to write a “latter day Pontius Pilate” but that would have put Gen Flynn in a much better light than I think he deserves. )


119 posted on 12/18/2018 9:38:46 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: wardaddy

First off, he was not Acting NSA, he was NSA designate-big difference. Obama expelled Russian personnel, the Russian NSA had to call the incoming administration to prevent it from becoming a major international incident, then the DoJ set out to criminalize the contacts. Likely Flynn didn’t talk about it because it was above the FBI’s pay grade.


120 posted on 12/18/2018 9:39:47 AM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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