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1 posted on 06/01/2018 8:44:10 PM PDT by Kartographer
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if you see a pit bull, do the world a kindness and kill it immediately.


2 posted on 06/01/2018 8:45:19 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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Met all kinds of nice Pit Bulls, as far as owning one not a chance in hell.


6 posted on 06/01/2018 8:52:59 PM PDT by heshtesh
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The behavior of pit bulls has been modeled my a branch of mathematics called catastrophe theory. It models of the non-linear dynamics of pit bull behavior, and why after a pit bull "snaps" it can not back down into "normal" behavior.

From Wikipedia:

the dog will exhibit a smooth transition of response from cowed to angry, depending on how it is provoked. But higher stress levels correspond to moving to the region (a < 0). Then, if the dog starts cowed, it will remain cowed as it is irritated more and more, until it reaches the 'fold' point, when it will suddenly, discontinuously snap through to angry mode. Once in 'angry' mode, it will remain angry, even if the direct irritation parameter is considerably reduced.

9 posted on 06/01/2018 8:57:05 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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My son has one. He is brilliant with adults and a real character but he knows who is boss. I would not trust him with children however as he does not seem to think all humans are above him only the ones that are bigger than him where my dog is submissive even to my 1 year old grandaughter. Ots seems as if a pitbulls submissiveness is not unconditional like most dogs


11 posted on 06/01/2018 9:03:57 PM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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Not sure which is worse, pit bulls or their trashy owners.


13 posted on 06/01/2018 9:08:57 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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Pit bulls were designed & bred for KILLING by gangs and drug pushers who used this deadly breed as a weapon of terror on their enemies. This breed must be eliminated.


15 posted on 06/01/2018 9:14:06 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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Unlike guns, (some) pit bulls kill people.

And before anyone gets the wrong idea my comment is a hat tip to the old saying, ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’.


20 posted on 06/01/2018 9:25:30 PM PDT by hirn_man
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The pit bull has been genetically created to fight other dogs. The method is to take newly born male dogs and get them to bite a stick. Then they lift the dog biting the stick off the ground. The dogs that lets go the soonest, get eliminated. Some breeders would slit the throat of the dog and if in death it hung on, that litter was determined to be a good one. Those dogs that passed the selection process will be bred for the next generation where the pups will be put through the selection process. This created the powerful bite needed for success in the dog fight.

The dog fights were another selection process where dogs that succeeded, fought for the kill. A switch was genetically developed in their brain that, once turned on, would fight unto death. In fact the grip of their jaws will lock onto its victim even after death. No amount of pain from its opponent would discourage its mission. The genetic selection of the dog fight created a very dangerous dog that can kill.

When a man, woman, child, pet is attacked by a pit bull, a switch was turned on in their brain. Once activated, it will attack with all of its genetic qualities created for killing by the dog fight industry. To reverse this genetic predisposition, any pit bull that bites anything must be eliminated. Perhaps a baby dog and the stick would identify the ones for neutering.


22 posted on 06/01/2018 9:36:13 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the new cult of the Left.)
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The article does say the dogs were previously abused - that could have played some part in why they snapped.

She was very lucky someone was there. The one dog was over 120 pounds, and I wonder if it was mixed with something else because that is much larger than standard. However, there are people breeding XXL Pitbulls now. You can see a lot of videos on YouTube.

I’ll reiterate what I said on another thread that only .01% of pit bulls attack like this, and the majority are great dogs. My interactions have been positive. However, I still think spay/neuter laws would be very helpful.

I wish this lady well.


24 posted on 06/01/2018 9:41:29 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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Mckenzie, a mother of two children aged 9 months and 2 years, told the Reflector she went to a family member’s house

Thank heaven she didn't have her to children with her.

28 posted on 06/01/2018 9:49:15 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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My dumbass neighbor has one. Barks at everything. Had to put a fence up to protect my dog. One day she will be his meal. 1 less Darwin Award winner!


29 posted on 06/01/2018 9:50:47 PM PDT by Bommer ( F the NFL)
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I’ve come across a number of pit bulls in my town, but they had nice owners, and the dogs were not aggressive. I figure maybe 1% of them go nuts.


31 posted on 06/01/2018 9:58:25 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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Death to all pit bulls. Throw them all in a ring and put wagers on which one will last the longest.


44 posted on 06/01/2018 11:18:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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Any badly bred or abused dog, or even a well-raised one, can lash out and bite. But very few breeds have the jaws, the bite strength and the neck muscles of a pit bull - when these dogs flip out, they can do far more damage than a golden retriever having a bad day.


47 posted on 06/01/2018 11:47:37 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I read articles like this with a sense of the unreal. For over 65 years I’ve had pets, usually a dogand a cat or two. When playing, border collies will nip, when they are young and incompletely trained. That’s it, the whole of my experience with “viscous” dogs. Gentle and patient training works. The dog on my lap currently agrees. (A terrier mix)


86 posted on 06/02/2018 5:22:29 AM PDT by JimSEA
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I reckon any breed can “snap”. The problem with pit bulls is they can kill you when they do.


89 posted on 06/02/2018 6:05:47 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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“Mckenzie said she was shocked by the events because of how close she was with the dogs before they suddenly “snapped.””

Sounds like the idiot owner of a local Husky that was recently caught on video killing 27 animals (cat, ducks, rabbits, chickens, etc..) who actually said “he’s not like that”. If it hadn’t been caught on video i’m sure she would have insisted her mutt wasn’t the perp.


91 posted on 06/02/2018 6:33:03 AM PDT by utax
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Pit bulls are just not meant to be companion animals. As much as I am for freedom of choice they should be banned. There are a million breeds of dogs to choose from.

If you just must have a pit bull looking dog get a dogo argentino. They look like a large pit bull but the mean has been bred out of them.


92 posted on 06/02/2018 8:04:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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This information can be found here: https://www.nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org/pit-bull-lobby/

It is an excerpt. This is one of - I believe - over 400 pages of information on the history, breeding, purpose, statistics, stories, deaths and attacks, victims, pictures, medical information, apologetics, and money and political sources for dangerous and deadly dogs and the people who fight, breed, love, defend, and make money from them at the site:

https://www.nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org/

THE PIT BULL LOBBY

Excerpt from Pit Bulls – Five Part Series , La Presse, Montreal
Investigative report on the Montreal pit bull ban and the influence of the pit bull lobby
By Marie-Claude Malboeuf, August 13, 2017

English translation: plus.lapresse.ca
French: Qui Veut Sauver Les Pitbulls
Also see: http://blog.dogsbite.org/2016/10/montreal-pit-bull-ban-veterinary-report-pit-bull-lobby.html

WHO IS PULLING THE STRINGS? The US pet industry is worth 16 billion dollars. Without pit bulls to sell, to rescue, to rehabilitate, to care for and to feed, a lot of people would see their revenues plunge, denounced Jeffrey Borchardt, who lost his baby when he was torn from the arms of his babysitter by two pit bulls. Since this tragedy, the American DJ and other victims have worked to expose the gears of the powerful pit bull promotion lobby. Who pulls the strings? Portrait of a tightly woven network.

Level one: Financing source
ANIMAL FARM FOUNDATION
Run by an American millionaire, Animal Farm Foundation has for its motto: “Equality for pit bulls.” The pressure group devotes itself entirely to combatting against any regulation targeting its dogs. After inheriting a fortune from her father, Jane Berkey, who also owns a literary agency, turned over at least $6 million to her group, $2.85 million in 2013, according to government records. She pays 9 employees (one of whom, the director, makes more than $100,000 a year) and finances numerous groups that share her philosophy.

Level two: The researchers
NATIONAL CANINE RESEARCH COUNCIL (NCRC)
To produce studies, AFF bought a private research body in 2007. The acquisition was kept secret until the victims’ group Dogsbite discovered this during litigation. The National Canine Research Council (NCRC) was created by a veterinary technician, Karen Delise. Neither an academic researcher nor a veterinarian, she self proclaims as the “greatest national expert on deaths caused by dog bites.” An “action fund” permits the organization to engage in lobbying, according to a government registration. The NCRC is linked to several advisors and consultants. This is the case for Gary Patronek, the veterinarian who co-signs (NCRC) studies, and in the case of the Page ~ 16 former chief animal control officer of Calgary, Bill Bruce, who was still employed in that civil service job at the time he accepted his association with NCRC. The agency already had consultant Glen Bui on board, whose heavy criminal record can be found online (illegal weapon possession, obstruction of justice, domestic violence and harassment). Still, thanks to millions from Animal Farm, the NCRC finances like-minded researchers—notably on the issue of identification of pit bulls, information available on their website.

Level 3: Publication
JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAVMA)
The American Veterinary Medical Association publishes NCRC studies in its journal. On its own website it proposes sample letters [for readers to write] contesting any law aimed at pit bulls. Moreover, its site has a link to AFF. The Association added the following introduction to a famous 2000 study: “In contrast to what has been reported in the news media, the data contained within this report CANNOT be used to infer any breed-specific risk for dog bite fatalities. [To reach that conclusion] it would be necessary to know the numbers of each breed currently residing in the United States. Such information is not available.” Even if they are opposed to a breed ban, for practical reasons amongst others, the authors of the study—seasoned in the ministry for Health and government institutions—nevertheless concluded: “In spite of potential bias and the lack of data on the canine population, pit bulls seem to be implicated in 42% of fatal tragedies. We do not believe that in the United States, the proportion of pit bulls amongst the dog population even comes near to approaching 42%. We therefore believe that the disproportion of deaths associated with pit bulls is real and escalating.”

Level 4: The political lobby
BEST FRIENDS ANIMAL SOCIETY
The studies of the AFF network allow [lobby] groups to put pressure on politicians. They propose regulations [they favor] and try to overturn those they dislike. Sometimes with success. The central facts about Best Friends Animal Society are that it manages $60 million and has for its motto: “Save them all,” for it is opposed to all euthanizing of animals. Its senior advocate, Ledy VanKavage sits on the board of AFF. The website of Best Friends Animal Society indicates that she paid an ex-economist from the tobacco Page ~ 17 industry, John Dunham, to create a fiscal calculation scheme designed to advise governments on the cost of breed banning. [Dunham’s] calculations were attacked in the Texas Tribune in 2011. The following year, before a referendum on pit bulls in Miami-Dade, a government committee discovered that the real costs incurred in targeting dogs was 65 times lower than those claimed by Dunham. “With all its money, the lobby [can afford to] finance lawyers and harass elected officials. And if it doesn’t get what it wants, it threatens to finance the campaign of their political opponents!” denounces Angela Provo, whose son Beau Rutledge was killed by a family pit bull.

Level 5: The distributors
THE ANIMAL CARE INDUSTRY
All the lobby studies are abundantly distributed by animal-based companies like shelters, breeders, trainers, etc. In Montreal, they are [distributed] by, amongst others, the SPCA, whose mission is to avoid euthanizing dogs and whose two most senior executives are themselves owners of pit bulls. On social media, pit bull owners deploy these studies relentlessly and accuse all their opponents of ignorance. Certain more aggressive ones have even threatened the mayor of Quebec City with death. Unfortunately, some militant activists have come to a tragic end, killed by their own fighting dogs—notably Darla Napora, at the time 8 months pregnant (California, 2011) and Rebecca Carey (Georgia, 2012)

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I believe this resource to be worthy of a bookmark. Thank you, Norski


105 posted on 06/02/2018 3:12:39 PM PDT by Norski
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The Sweetest and best neighbor dog that I have ever known is a Pit Bull .... Chelsea is 70lbs of Love
She used to visit me every morning ... the Family moved so I only get to visit when I make the trip, she still loves me.
Her Brother on the other hand had to be put down
Dogs are individuals


118 posted on 06/02/2018 5:11:17 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!)
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