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'I thought I was going to die'
norwalkreflector. ^ | 6/1/18 | ZOE GRESZLER

Posted on 06/01/2018 8:44:10 PM PDT by Kartographer

Holly Mckenzie considered her family’s two pit bull dogs her “best friends,” having made memories over the past three years of walking them, playing with them, cuddling them and even sleeping in the same bed together.

On Sunday though, Mckenzie said it was like a switch went off in the normally “cuddly, sweet” dogs. The Norwalk woman said one minute she was petting them and the next she was fighting for her life as they literally tried to rip her apart.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: chet99; doggieping; dogofpeace; dogs; maul; pitbull; pitbulls; snap; switch
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

It is like the weirdos who keep highly venomous snakes …

Had one of these in my town - had a Gabon Viper

One day bit him when trying to feed it

Had to be transported to Jacoby Medical Center in Bronx
(fortunately only short distance away) where have anti venom
at Bronx Zoo

Town told him - either you go or the snakes go

He left


21 posted on 06/01/2018 9:34:28 PM PDT by njslim
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To: Kartographer

The pit bull has been genetically created to fight other dogs. The method is to take newly born male dogs and get them to bite a stick. Then they lift the dog biting the stick off the ground. The dogs that lets go the soonest, get eliminated. Some breeders would slit the throat of the dog and if in death it hung on, that litter was determined to be a good one. Those dogs that passed the selection process will be bred for the next generation where the pups will be put through the selection process. This created the powerful bite needed for success in the dog fight.

The dog fights were another selection process where dogs that succeeded, fought for the kill. A switch was genetically developed in their brain that, once turned on, would fight unto death. In fact the grip of their jaws will lock onto its victim even after death. No amount of pain from its opponent would discourage its mission. The genetic selection of the dog fight created a very dangerous dog that can kill.

When a man, woman, child, pet is attacked by a pit bull, a switch was turned on in their brain. Once activated, it will attack with all of its genetic qualities created for killing by the dog fight industry. To reverse this genetic predisposition, any pit bull that bites anything must be eliminated. Perhaps a baby dog and the stick would identify the ones for neutering.


22 posted on 06/01/2018 9:36:13 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the new cult of the Left.)
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To: hirn_man

Take it a step farther. Suppose your gun just went off while you had it in your hand due to you bumping it or laying it down on a table. Then a study of that particular gun shows those weapons are known for that. Should you be immune from liability because it never did it before? Equating inanimate objects to predators is folly. They aren’t even and shouldn’t be in the same conversation. This is serious shiit try to stay on the issue.


23 posted on 06/01/2018 9:40:31 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Carry, practice, pray it don't happen. You ain't carrying you lose automtically.)
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To: Kartographer

The article does say the dogs were previously abused - that could have played some part in why they snapped.

She was very lucky someone was there. The one dog was over 120 pounds, and I wonder if it was mixed with something else because that is much larger than standard. However, there are people breeding XXL Pitbulls now. You can see a lot of videos on YouTube.

I’ll reiterate what I said on another thread that only .01% of pit bulls attack like this, and the majority are great dogs. My interactions have been positive. However, I still think spay/neuter laws would be very helpful.

I wish this lady well.


24 posted on 06/01/2018 9:41:29 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: yesthatjallen

About three years ago my husband and I took our puppy to a dog park. He was about 6 months old and big for his age. Some lady came in with her full breed pit bull. I bet the dog easily weighed over 100 pounds. He shadowed our puppy and would not allow him to move away without standing over him and dominating him. The idiot owner kept blathering on and on about how sweet her dog was and how pb’s were misunderstood and mis-bred and that the full breed pb was an easy going dog. My husband and I left soon after and never returned to a dog park.


25 posted on 06/01/2018 9:43:06 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: barbarianbabs

I was bit by a mongrel when I was 11. Broke the skin through my jeans leg, but no deep puncture. My older brother wasn’t so lucky. He got bit above the cast of his broken ankle when he went to inform the owner to keep the dog quarantined. Both times the owner had screamed don’t hit him, he doesn’t bite.

As an adult my wife was attacked by a Rottweiler as we were jogging down the street. He grabbed her by her bicep from behind. It somehow didn’t break the skin but left a huge bruise and slobbering up and down her arm. The owners only had it about week and it would run to the chain link fence in it’s yard and growl and bark at everyone who went by. I had mentioned earlier that one day it was going to get out.

After the attack I went to the owner’s door and told him the dog had attacked us. His response was it hadn’t happened because the dog was safely in the backyard. Right then the dog came around the corner growling.

After that the dog was gone and we never saw it again.

Whenever I hear about cops killing ‘sweet’ dogs I have a healthy skepticism.


26 posted on 06/01/2018 9:45:43 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I live in a residential neighborhood and today I saw a man walking his muzzled pitbull. Thankfully he lives a mile from my home.


27 posted on 06/01/2018 9:48:48 PM PDT by CaptainK ("no collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker")
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To: Kartographer
Mckenzie, a mother of two children aged 9 months and 2 years, told the Reflector she went to a family member’s house

Thank heaven she didn't have her to children with her.

28 posted on 06/01/2018 9:49:15 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Kartographer

My dumbass neighbor has one. Barks at everything. Had to put a fence up to protect my dog. One day she will be his meal. 1 less Darwin Award winner!


29 posted on 06/01/2018 9:50:47 PM PDT by Bommer ( F the NFL)
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To: hirn_man
As an adult my wife was attacked by a Rottweiler as we were jogging down the street

Dogs attack when startled.

I was walking down the street. Husband and wife were in the back of the driveway with their dog, all facing away from the street.

As I walked by the dog heard me and charged and bit me on the ankle. Husband and wife screaming and running to get the dog.

The dog was probably normally very well behaved and friendly but it must have thought I was sneaking around and he attacked to defend his owners.

I read a similar story recently where a woman was walking down a street past a driveway with a car. As she passed the car there was a dog on the other side. Each one was startled. The dog attacked.

30 posted on 06/01/2018 9:57:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Kartographer

I’ve come across a number of pit bulls in my town, but they had nice owners, and the dogs were not aggressive. I figure maybe 1% of them go nuts.


31 posted on 06/01/2018 9:58:25 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Equine1952

‘Equating inanimate objects to predators is folly. They aren’t even and shouldn’t be in the same conversation. This is serious shiit try to stay on the issue.’

Maybe JimRob can make you a moderator since you have such an uncanny grasp about what does and doesn’t belong in a topic.

Would you like me to send you a private reply before posting in the future so you can let me know if my post is acceptable?


32 posted on 06/01/2018 10:08:00 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man

“Whenever I hear about cops killing ‘sweet’ dogs I have a healthy skepticism.”

Several years ago a female deputy sheriff came to our gate to ask about a report. Tiny thing too. My son was visiting with his female chocolate lab who had originally been raised by us.

Belle, the lab, went running up to the gate. She put her hand on her weapon. Two things saved that dog.

Our county is outlaws or law enforcement. No one with any brains opens a gate without permission. The deputy did not open the gate.

I saw her put her hand on her weapon and yelled Belle, sit! which, thank God she did.

The dog has never bitten a soul, she is not aggressive but she is protective. If I’d have been the deputy, I would have been concerned at that big dog rushing to the gate.

You have to wonder a lot of the time, what is the impression that the law enforcement officer is getting from that “sweet” dog.

Having had and raised dogs for 70 years, there is NO dog that won’t bite. At times the sweetest dog in the world will, given the right circumstances. How is a stranger to know?


33 posted on 06/01/2018 10:14:41 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: yesthatjallen

I had a Labrador Retriever that while very friendly made me think she was going to cause an older couple(80 to 90) to die from a heart attack.

I was playing with my dog in the back yard with the gate open when this couple walked by. Birdie saw them and took off at a dead run. The couple saw her coming and the woman screamed and the old man raised his cane.

Luckily Birdie plopped down on her butt a few feet away, skidded up to them and proceeded to wag hear tail like crazy.

The old folks still weren’t too happy that a large dog had come at them on dead run and I got a lecture about securing her in the back yard.

I was just relieved that neither of them had suffered a heart attack over the incident.


34 posted on 06/01/2018 10:22:47 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: max americana

My dog is my personal trainer and an excuse to wander around places that might otherwise raise suspicions.

I’m curious, my dog more so.

It’s all good.


35 posted on 06/01/2018 10:27:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Duchess47

“Having had and raised dogs for 70 years, there is NO dog that won’t bite. At times the sweetest dog in the world will, given the right circumstances. How is a stranger to know?”

Had a cocker spaniel that would not harm a fly EXCEPT when he had a rawhide chew toy (or got ahold of one of my leather gloves). If anyone tried to take it away from him the dog would go psycho. I kept the back gate locked because I was afraid a neighborhood kid would go back there and try to take it to play fetch.

Any other toy (ball, frizbee, squeaky toy) and he was fine but something about cow products set him off.


36 posted on 06/01/2018 10:37:13 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man

Yep, just takes the right triggering.


37 posted on 06/01/2018 10:39:55 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

Even with Labs one has to be a known and accepted member of the Greater Pack or one is a potential risk to be confronted. The presence of a Small Pack member demonstrating acceptance of the non-pack individual will get most to stand down. Dogs can always go rogue though.


38 posted on 06/01/2018 10:44:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Pinkbell

My Sheltie - Corgi Mix was attack 3 times over a period of 13 years we lived here and all 3 were Pits. Twice my Hope was on leash and one time she was on a rope in our driveway while I was doing yard work. Twice the dogs got away from the owners (The one women her Pit dragged her to grounds like she was a rag doll)the ground I say the dog weigh easily between 100-120, There was no warning the Pit just suddenly took off like a bullet from a gun.

Just pure luck Hope was only seriously injured in one attack, Me and the wife spend four days solid flushing and cleaning her wounds ever 6 hours so she could come home instead of staying at the Vets with a drain.

You know the common thing that all three of these attacks shared? Stories from the owners about how loving and gentle they were and how the kids play with them and so on. Telling me that they were just big old teddy bears.

There are all kinds of pictures of Siegfried & Roy playing with their Tigers, the Tigers lovingly nuzzling them and and you can go back and read their own words about how the tigers were just great big teddy bears sound familiar?


39 posted on 06/01/2018 10:44:46 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Pinkbell
“only .01 per cent attack like this”

.01 percent is one in ten thousand. I don’t think it’s one in ten thousand, neither does the guy in our neighborhood that lost a finger last year at the dog park (!) trying to rescue his dog from one of the vicious beasts.

Only a fool would trust one.

40 posted on 06/01/2018 10:45:15 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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