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Maybe We Don’t Deserve John McCain
The New York Times ^ | May 15, 2018 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 05/16/2018 7:25:37 PM PDT by Trump20162020

I’ve been thinking about the first time McCain ran for president in 2000.

It was the absolute best political event I ever covered. Not sure it was entirely a race, since he was up in New Hampshire for months and months all by himself, just going to town meetings and talking about campaign-finance reform.

It was what everybody imagines an underdog campaign would be like — a few reporters and the candidate, driving around in a bus, telling jokes, talking about issues, and of course arguing about where to eat dinner that night. But it was also a crusade — McCain thought if you reformed the way politicians raised money to run for office you could change the world.

And he won! New Hampshire that is. Went on down to South Carolina for the next big primary and everything changed. He was actually a pretty terrible front-runner. Lost the primary, lost the nomination. Went back to the Senate and passed that campaign finance law, which was pretty much destroyed by the Supreme Court.

So I can’t say there was a happy ending. But there was certainly a moment.

His talents were much better used as a senator than as a presidential candidate. And I’m glad that his last big political moment was that vote last year against destroying the Affordable Care Act, and giving Donald Trump the political equivalent of a middle finger.

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KEYWORDS: arizona; johnmccain; mccain; mcdouche; senate
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To: Trump20162020
But it was also a crusade — McCain thought if you reformed the way politicians raised money to run for office you could change the world.

Keating Five, McCain-Feingold... McCain has plenty of experience with finding creative ways to take money outside of the rules.

41 posted on 05/16/2018 7:48:25 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Trump20162020

Nope we don’t deserve John McCain: we haven’t been THAT evil!


42 posted on 05/16/2018 7:48:56 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: What would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: Trump20162020

Only Soros likes McCain

DATED: Jan 11, 2014 (AZ)
Sen. John McCain censured by Maricopa GOP
http://www.azfamily.com/story/24425782/sen-john-mccain-censured-by-maricopa-gop

DATED: Jan. 17, 2016 (AZ)
Maricopa County GOP pledges to support ‘anyone but McCain’
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/01/17/maricopa-county-gop-pledges-support-anyone-but-mccain/78943530/


43 posted on 05/16/2018 7:52:03 PM PDT by donna (California Sanctuary State is the latest method for trapping and trading slaves,)
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To: Trump20162020

I knew in 2008 that I certainly didn’t deserve McCain (like I didn’t deserve some of my whippins as a youth).

But I supported him enthusiastically because I expected him not to make it through his term, and we’d have Sarah Palin as our “Commander-in-Chief” A’la Geena Davis in the TV series, that ran about that time, by the same title


44 posted on 05/16/2018 7:53:30 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: Trump20162020

I’m thankful that most of us never get what’s coming to us.


45 posted on 05/16/2018 7:54:27 PM PDT by Califreak (Take Me Back To Constantinople)
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To: Trump20162020

I fully agree that we do not deserve him.


46 posted on 05/16/2018 7:55:49 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Trump20162020

Yeah, Noah probably thought he didn’t deserve the flood, and I’m sure the residents of Sodom thought they didn’t deserve the brimstone and fire. But sometimes God punishes us and it’s up to us to recognize what we did to deserve it.


47 posted on 05/16/2018 7:57:43 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Here’s a middle finger to Bret Stephens.


48 posted on 05/16/2018 7:57:58 PM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Avenue.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
His slow death is bringing out the worst in us. Not good.

I half agree with you.

I agree that the baser elements of people typically of goodwill are not being restrained. Indeed, even Johnny Lydon (formerly Rotten) said of the passing of Baroness Thatcher, "I was her enemy in her life but I will not be her enemy in her death."

THAT SAID....Sen McCain has seemingly gone out of his way to remain full of anger and hatred as he enters (with apologies to Wagner) Werkzeugsdämmerung. His book excerpts and alleged comments and phone calls reveal a real unsavory element that, at least for me, lowers my opinion of him (which I didn't think was possible). Maybe he is baiting us - He almost seems to be inviting this kind of reaction.

I am generally staying silent because I have pretty much nothing good to say beyond I hope he is reconciled to God. And while the moralist in me would prefer for others to follow suit, McCain is seemingly acting like an übertool in his last days...it's hard to stay silent.

49 posted on 05/16/2018 7:59:11 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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50 posted on 05/16/2018 8:03:10 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Bishop_Malachi
Yep, remember their coverage of George W. Bush, especially circa 2006-2009? Now they treat him like wise sage because he doesn't like Trump.

Trump's only "the worst President ever!" until the next Republican in the White House.

51 posted on 05/16/2018 8:03:16 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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52 posted on 05/16/2018 8:06:03 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Trump20162020

I wonder if they Polled the NYT Newsroom Staff to see who Voted for McCain in 2008 just for yucks?


53 posted on 05/16/2018 8:07:51 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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To: Trump20162020

No Barf alert?


54 posted on 05/16/2018 8:09:58 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Boomer

Because some don’t want to see it, and some don’t think it is a problem.


55 posted on 05/16/2018 8:10:19 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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56 posted on 05/16/2018 8:11:05 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Trump20162020

We did nothing to deserve that America hating crazy man.


57 posted on 05/16/2018 8:12:14 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Trump20162020

I agree. We are too good a nation to have a traitorous piece of shit like McAmnesty in our government.


58 posted on 05/16/2018 8:13:53 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Trump20162020

I figure I’m going to have to watch HGTV or Hallmark for a month as the media, especially FOX goes non stop McCain for days and days, weeks and week 24-7.


59 posted on 05/16/2018 8:14:00 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Trump20162020

He’s a horrible little person.


60 posted on 05/16/2018 8:15:13 PM PDT by ALASKA (Watching a coup..........)
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