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Cops used dead man's finger in attempt to unlock his phone
www.tampabay.com ^ | Updated: April 21, 2018 at 01:55 PM | Kathryn Varn

Posted on 04/23/2018 12:35:36 PM PDT by Red Badger

Edited on 04/23/2018 1:49:26 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: Lurkinanloomin
Did they have a warrant or probable cause? They can’t just shoot you for refusing a search.

It's 2018. Cops can shoot you for any reason they like.

61 posted on 04/23/2018 1:34:07 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Red Badger

Are police not allowed to examine, scan, copy, reproduce, enlarge, multiply, and transmit the images made with fingerprint recording devices to other law enforcement agencies and fingerprint identification services?

And also do about a zillion other things with a dead body of a violent or suspicious death via the forensic science of the morgue?

Including picking it up out of the middle of the sidewalk and move it to the morgue? Should they be allowed to do this or should the cops just leave it there, rope it off, and let it rot and be plucked apart by crows?

Can they, for example, clean dirt out from beneath the victim’s fingernails? Take off his clothes and examine them?


62 posted on 04/23/2018 1:36:14 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: DiogenesLamp

In the scheme of things, it’s an expensive problem for them.


63 posted on 04/23/2018 1:36:15 PM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: DiogenesLamp; robroys woman; Responsibility2nd

On some fictional tv cop drama, they used a defibrillator to overcome the electrical check...


64 posted on 04/23/2018 1:44:26 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Daffynition
In the scheme of things, it’s an expensive problem for them.

It wouldn't be the first time product was rushed out the door accompanied by inflated claims to capability or reliability. I bet they made a chunk of money off of it though.

65 posted on 04/23/2018 1:48:48 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: fishtank

Classic Bauer.


66 posted on 04/23/2018 1:50:51 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Calvin Locke
On some fictional tv cop drama, they used a defibrillator to overcome the electrical check...

I'm virtually certain that could not possibly work, but accurate science has never been much of a requirement for Television or movies.

67 posted on 04/23/2018 1:51:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: EdnaMode
Classic Bauer.

In designated survivor he has too many "feelings" ugh

68 posted on 04/23/2018 1:53:11 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DiogenesLamp

Because maybe he didn’t use his fingerprint on the phone. My iPhone has fingerprint use. I don’t use it. Still use a code. I don’t want to be stopped and forced by a cop with my hand to unlock it.


69 posted on 04/23/2018 1:57:16 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana
I don’t want to be stopped and forced by a cop with my hand to unlock it.

Sounds like a good idea.

70 posted on 04/23/2018 2:01:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DesertRhino

The phone may be physical evidence and be being held by the police but all of the perps property goes to the next of kin, who is alive, who has privacy rights, NOT TO THE PO PO!

A warrant should have been produced to the rightful owner or the Jack Boots should have even been there.


71 posted on 04/23/2018 2:06:29 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: 1Old Pro

I watched the pilot but thought it was mediocre.


72 posted on 04/23/2018 2:08:41 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: DiogenesLamp

Bloomberg? You betcha. Data merchants. Some of their clients...

Bank of America, citi group, goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan, Wells Fargo, hsbc, Barclays, loyd’s, standard charter, bnp paribas, Td bank, and hedge funds/mutual funds/asset management/brokers firms like bridge water, 72point management, Td ameritrade, wisdomtree, black rock, black stone, kkr. Also some corporations, such as ge (mainly ge capital devision) apple ( mainly its Braeburn capital fund) kpmg, Bain co. Also some universities, Harvard, NYU, Fordham, UCLA, ect... Bloomberg has a diversified client list for its terminal services, and while almost all terminals are financial services firms since its main function is information on company’s, some firms like Exxonmobil use functions that track production capacities around the world, oil prices on all oil types, etc...


73 posted on 04/23/2018 2:16:03 PM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: plain talk

I’m calling bullshit on the cop stories. Only an idiot would stick his body halfway into a car to stop a person from driving off.

If the car is accelerating as it was backing up, that cop is not going to be reaching for his gun while being dragged.

Video from the gas station will probably tell a much different story.


74 posted on 04/23/2018 2:41:20 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“They can’t just shoot you for refusing a search.”

True, but knowing how the media likes to “massage” the details of police shootings lately, I wouldn’t be surprised if “tried to drive away” really means something like “tried to run over a police officer with his vehicle while escaping”.


75 posted on 04/23/2018 3:19:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DesertRhino

“Electricity, bloodflow, etc... a dead finger won’t work.”

Sounds like vampires have an open and shut class action discrimination case against Apple.


76 posted on 04/23/2018 3:21:41 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: freedumb2003
I disagree that what they did was legal. The moment the guy died all his possessions legally passed to his estate. They were NOT “unowned” at that moment and the cops needed a search warrant FROM THE HEIRS before attempting to crack it. Since their heirs were NOT participants in the alleged crime at hand this was a violation of the 4A.

Ah! But more than this, even if the heirs were completely complicit the requirement for a warrant is absolute.
(In fact, I would tend to argue that any search without a warrant is, by definition, unreasonable.)

77 posted on 04/23/2018 3:42:09 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Lurkinanloomin
They can’t just shoot you for refusing a search.

Are we still sure about this one?

78 posted on 04/23/2018 3:48:24 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Edward.Fish

Heck they can shoot you and use your cold dead fingers, you kidding.


79 posted on 04/23/2018 3:50:44 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Tag, you're it.)
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To: Red Badger

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Linus doesn’t care now, he’s “on fire” for Jesus....
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80 posted on 04/23/2018 3:53:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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