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Cops used dead man's finger in attempt to unlock his phone
www.tampabay.com ^ | Updated: April 21, 2018 at 01:55 PM | Kathryn Varn

Posted on 04/23/2018 12:35:36 PM PDT by Red Badger

Edited on 04/23/2018 1:49:26 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: BenLurkin

>>It’s legal to fiddle around with a corpse?<<

I disagree that what they did was legal. The moment the guy died all his possessions legally passed to his estate. They were NOT “unowned” at that moment and the cops needed a search warrant FROM THE HEIRS before attempting to crack it. Since their heirs were NOT participants in the alleged crime at hand this was a violation of the 4A.

IMHO.


41 posted on 04/23/2018 1:08:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“A cop can be 30 feet BEHIND a fleeing car. But that still constitutes deadly force resistance.

So the laws allow the cops to open fire.”


I suspect the intent of such rules are to allow the cops to stop a threat to the population at large.

Like a guy on an on-ramp, about to bring a high-speed chase to the highway.

Or a maniac running down people in a moving van.


42 posted on 04/23/2018 1:09:41 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Red Badger

“Fingerprint ID on iphone doesn’t work after it hasn’t been used for a couple of days.”

After a couple of days it is rigged to require a password. Also a dead finder won’t work. Those are protections from exactly this kinda thing and other government intrusions.
Personally, I think it would be a bad idea to ever use a fingerprint.


43 posted on 04/23/2018 1:09:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, I know. 24 was some fine fantasy, too.


44 posted on 04/23/2018 1:09:52 PM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: Red Badger

“... According to Chaney, there’s a 48- to 72-hour window to access a phone using the fingerprint sensor.”
That’s why it didn’t work.

A fingerprint doesn’t seem too awkward.
Once Tim Cook gets people using colon maps to open their phones though...


45 posted on 04/23/2018 1:10:09 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: DesertRhino
Electricity, bloodflow, etc... a dead finger won’t work. Swordmaker had a good explanation of it and has better details.

A dead finger can be made to work. It's just a matter of how badly you want it. :)

46 posted on 04/23/2018 1:10:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: US_MilitaryRules
The one on my iPad only works about half the time.

I believe it. I think it will get more reliable as the technology gets better.

47 posted on 04/23/2018 1:11:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Migraine

A little vitreous humour?


48 posted on 04/23/2018 1:11:47 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
But even then - with all the morally and legally questionable obstacles - I doubt that it would work.

Why would it not work? If you take into account all the methods employed by the designer to detect a valid finger print, it would seem to me they could be replicated.

49 posted on 04/23/2018 1:12:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

And he was just getting his life back together, right?


50 posted on 04/23/2018 1:17:58 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: CrazyIvan

A little vitreous humour?


Groannnnn. \;7 D


51 posted on 04/23/2018 1:20:52 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: DiogenesLamp

I have a friend who is a tech rep for Bloomberg, and their keyboards unlock with their terminals. He said the largest amount of calls he gets, are probs w/ the fingerprint reader.

Hands too cold? Hands too hot? Lotion?

Any number of issues muck up their keyboards. The keyboards have been replaced several times.


52 posted on 04/23/2018 1:22:49 PM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

In most instances cops claim they were in fear for their lives as the perp is fleeing. They claim the vehicle is a deadly weapon and that the perp is likely to run them over as they attempt to flee.

So. In a situation where you are at a traffic stop and the cop asks you to get out of the car and you instead put in in drive and attempt to leave?

You better hope the volley of bullets aimed at your head miss their mark.


53 posted on 04/23/2018 1:23:23 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Red Badger

What was the victims’s blood alcohol? Did his hair test positive for toxins? Did the autopsy show evidence of heart disease? Dementia? AIDS? What was the cause of death?


54 posted on 04/23/2018 1:24:20 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: CrazyIvan

I thought it was downright virtuous.


55 posted on 04/23/2018 1:25:23 PM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: Red Badger

“”There should be some dignity in death,” Nojeim said”
Well maybe so. Show him the same dignity he showed the cop trying to arrest him.

From another article:
“Largo police Officers Matthew Steiner and Prentice Ables pulled over a black Nissan sedan driven by Phillip at the gas station due to illegally tinted windows, officials said.

While talking to Phillip, police said the officers smelled the odor of marijuana coming from the vehicle.

As officers tried to detain him, police said Phillip jumped into the driver’s seat of the Nissan and tried to drive away. Steiner found himself trapped halfway in the vehicle as Phillip put it in reverse and accelerated with the driver’s side door open, police said. Ables was able to get out of the car’s way.

While Steiner was being dragged by the car, police said he drew his firearm and fired “in self-defense,” police said. The officer then fell out of the car and found the open driver’s side door “brushed” over him.

The Nissan, still going in reverse, hit another car, crashed into the gas station’s bollards and then stopped between two gas pumps. Officers then started medical treatment for Phillip and called for paramedics, police said.


56 posted on 04/23/2018 1:26:23 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Daffynition
Any number of issues muck up their keyboards. The keyboards have been replaced several times.

I'm not surprised. It sounds like they haven't quite worked the bugs out of it yet.

57 posted on 04/23/2018 1:28:02 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ConservativeWarrior
Police use a cadaver digit, inside a tennis ball; and train their cadaver dogs to alert to the smell of decayed or rotting flesh.; Demonstrated, the officer hides the ball, and the dog searches it out.


58 posted on 04/23/2018 1:30:00 PM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: mbarker12474

Lead poisoning.....................


59 posted on 04/23/2018 1:31:12 PM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: CrazyIvan

What you did there.........I SEE IT!........................


60 posted on 04/23/2018 1:33:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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