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Lawnmower and small gasoline engine advice and tips needed
self | 4 16 2018 | self

Posted on 04/16/2018 7:50:15 AM PDT by dennisw

I want to keep this new Troy Bilt lawnmower running great. It is the TB230 with 163cc* Briggs & Stratton® 725EXi Series engine     http://www.troybilt.com/equipment/troybilt/troy-bilt-tb320-walk-behind-mower-12avb2a3711 

My questions are:

  1. Do you use synthetic oil? What brand and what weigh?
  2. Or do you use regular oil? What brand? What weight?
  3. Both of the above are climate dependent    You will use different oil if you live in New Mexico compared to Minnesota
  4. How often do you change your lawnmower oil?
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  6. Is it OK to use 94 octane premium gasoline right from the beginning? As soon as I start using this new lawnmower?
  7. Will using 94 octane gasoline stress out the Briggs Stratton engine? Make it run too hot?
  8. Is it worth the effort to buy gasoline with ZERO ethanol in it? My closest place is ten miles away so I would have to buy a few gallons to make it worthwhile....and add stabilizer or not?
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  10. What is a good additive for the 10% ethanol gasoline that we find everywhere. Additive For small engine use with this 10% ethanol gasoline
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  12. How much hotter do small air cooled lawnmower engines get compared to water cooled automobile engines
  13. Is there a superior gasoline filter I should buy and install on the Briggs and Stratton


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To: wally_bert

I bought a lawnmower from Sears, yes Sears, 20 years ago. It has had one tuneup about 5 years ago when I couldn’t get it started in the Spring.

Of course, when you only mow your grass about 10 times a year, it doesn’t get too worn down.


61 posted on 04/16/2018 8:36:14 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: TruthWillWin

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If you’re running in warm weather, SAE 30 will let the engine run longer before failure of the crank.

SAE 10-30 is for sub-freezing start conditions. Small tractors sometimes get used in freezing weather, so in that case, it would be better.
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62 posted on 04/16/2018 8:38:19 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; dennisw
Use only SAE 30 oil in small engines!

NO! Do NOT use only SAE 30W motor oil in small engines.

Consult the owner's manual for YOUR small engine and use the weight of oil specified therein. If the engine was manufactured in the XXI Century, there's a very high probability that the specified oil will be of the modern multi-weight variety. All of mine (two B&S, a Honda, and a Tecumseh) use 5W-30, as specified by the manufacturer. But this has nothing to do with YOUR small engines; consult YOUR owner's manual(s) and operate accordingly.

63 posted on 04/16/2018 8:38:22 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: skinndogNN

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I have a 20 year old Sears lawn tractor that I use fore fire clearing at the ranch. The motor is like new, but everything else has been replaced multiple times.
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64 posted on 04/16/2018 8:42:06 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: skinndogNN

I’m still using a Sears lawnmower after 14 years, never changed the oil or used fuel stabilizer or done anything except put gas in it and mow the lawn. The air filter bolt is stripped out of the plastic fitting, so the filter just rides loose on the carburetor. It takes a good shot of starting ether to get that mower going these days, which washes all the dirt down into the carb.

When I absolutely can’t get it running, I’ll buy another.


65 posted on 04/16/2018 8:43:28 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: TexasGator

Always drain the fuel tank and let it run until it runs out of fuel before storing in winter. Do this and small engines will last much longer.


66 posted on 04/16/2018 8:44:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: ealgeone; dennisw
Use Trufuel in your small engines. Pure gas.

I currently run five 4-cycle small engines; three (forgot one in previous post) B&S, one Honda, one Tecumseh. For the past 15 years, I have consistently operated them with standard E-10 pump gas, treated with Sta-Bil. I keep about 25 gallons of treated gas on hand. Three of them get run dry before over-winter storage, two do not. NONE of them; (yes, that's right: ZERO) give any difficulty with starting after storage. NO, I don't have carburetor problems. NO, they don't gum up. NO, the fuel lines don't rot. They just plain run.

YMMV.

OTOH, 2-cycle engines are a completely different matter ... In them, ethanol is evil.

67 posted on 04/16/2018 8:45:25 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

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Nonsense!

SAE 30 is what is shipped with every small engine product sold in temperate climates.

Sae 10-30 is reccommended for sub-freezing operation only.


68 posted on 04/16/2018 8:45:31 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Of course.


69 posted on 04/16/2018 8:48:11 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: editor-surveyor
YOU consult YOUR owner's manual; I'll consult MINE.

Anyone thinks consulting the owner's manual is "nonsense" is probably in the small-engine repair business, and has a conflict of interest ...

70 posted on 04/16/2018 8:50:47 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: dennisw

It probably says which oil to use right on the dipstick.


71 posted on 04/16/2018 8:52:02 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: central_va
What’s wrong with 10w30?

Most small consumer-grade 4-strokes use splash oiling, not pressurized oiling systems. Multi-vis oils are really tailored for the latter, to speed oil flow when cold. No point in using a multi-vis oil unless you have a commercial-grade engine with an actual oil pump (and likely, oil filter). Some commercial mower engines are set up that way to help them last longer while mowing inclined or terraced lots.

Also, multi-vis oils thin out faster in air-cooled engines. So 10W30 will work if that's all you can find, but small engines generally last longer with the straight 30W (dinosaur squeezings or synthetic).

72 posted on 04/16/2018 8:53:43 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: dennisw

Use regular 87 gasoline. Your compression ratio and timing are set for it. Put in higher octane and the burn is too slow. Most people have this very confused (”high octane is better gasoline”).


73 posted on 04/16/2018 8:54:32 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: Charles Martel

My Briggs powered lawnmower engine is a pressured unit.
Ditto the Honda motor on our wood splitter.


74 posted on 04/16/2018 8:57:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: headstamp 2

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Yout generator likely got condensate in the fuel, which regular Sta-Bil is not designed to deal with.

Marine Sta-bil protects against moisture, but costs considerably more, and is not good for very long storage.

Actually, all of the additives use the same ingredients, regardless of brand, but the proportions will vary.

API has much info available about petroleum product storage at no cost.
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75 posted on 04/16/2018 8:57:40 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NorthMountain

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I seriously doubt that you got your ideas from any product manual.
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76 posted on 04/16/2018 9:02:01 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Which oils do Briggs and Honda recommend for those engines?


77 posted on 04/16/2018 9:04:00 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: TalBlack
Based on my experience with that Troy Bilt don’t put gas in it. It will fail and be un fixable. Period.

Troy-Bilt is just another brand produced by MTD (they make a huge percentage of "big box store" mowers).

78 posted on 04/16/2018 9:07:47 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: dennisw

Amsoil synthetic 10 - 30 weight will work and your engine will run cooler.

93 octane or above no ethanol or add Ethanol Fuel Conditioner (Lucas Oil).. You can get race gas (100 - 105) in some areas or your local rural airport you can get AVGAS 100/130


79 posted on 04/16/2018 9:12:47 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: central_va

Straight weight oil lubricates better. I’m considering synthetic for the rider mower and just changing it once a season.


80 posted on 04/16/2018 9:16:41 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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