Posted on 03/22/2018 7:49:44 AM PDT by GailA
Oh, please. Spoken like somebody who has never had an exposed nerve on a weekend.
>> We don’t sell what little we get, nor give it away <<
But even if you did, the amounts involved couldn’t possibly come anywhere close to creating the “national crisis” of 65K annual deaths from opioids.
Don’t disagree, but the government like always goes about it backawards. First thing to do is stop the Illegal drugs from M.E., Mexico and China and Pill Mills in the USA. 1 Trip through Rehab, then lock them up in a special treatment facility where no drugs can be smuggled in. And that is a BIG proble with the Shelby Co Memphis Jail, even granny is smuggling it in to her grand sons now, that was not small amount, either looked like a brick size of cocaine.
The Pain Management Clinics were supposed to be the ‘fix’, short of what short term post surgical treatment was needed. Then they turned into Illegal Pill MIlls so some one could get RICH. 1 P test should not cost $2k or in 1 case over $20+K, just because 1 patient took a few NORCOS post op they tested for EVERY legal and Illegal drug.
Instead they are punishing all Intractable and Chronic Pain Patients as if they were street junkies.
I function quite well on that 10 mg Valium twice a day, but with out it I dont function and have not had 1 increase in a decade. And my medical bills climb disportionaly when removed from it. I’ve had 13 reactions to Neuropathy drugs. Valium is the only 1 that works, and as a side benefit works for the Fibromyalgia, Meniere’s and Gastropresis spasms, 1 drug treats 4 health issues. As a very drug sensitive patient I can’t take most meds And I know more about their side effects than most docs do as I research them and have reacted to them.
Latest is Rilfaximin a gut antibiotic for SIBO. And there is the rist it will come back.
Most of us just want to be able to function, not drugged our of our minds. I’ll take a Level 5 over a Level 10 any day of the week makes a world of difference. But I want my Specialist not some Under Educated APN or PA treating me who has very little knowledge of my health needs.
They started this withdrawl/reduction with the VA patients 3 monthws before the general public.
Vets Fight Back former Marine Robert Rose Jr, suing US Rep Phil Roe. Mr. Rose use to be fairly functional, now he’s wheel chair bound, and if it breaks it can take up to 7 months to get repaired. Latest VA scandal.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/vets.fight.back/
House passed the Right to Try on the second go round hope it gets through the senate. And they will expand it to other hopeless diseases. My BIL has MD as does his brother. Not a lot out there to treat it. Son is Type 2 Diabetic, again not a whole lot treats it well. My friend Roger Chriss has EDS another of those Rare disease that the PIG Pharma doesn’t work on as it is not profitable. Same reason GYN’s don’t see women my age, we go once a year vs the baby making generation.
Sounds like you’ve picked up some nerve damage, that sounds just like Neuropathy, I’ve got that down both arms/hands and legs. Thumb surgery to repair Trigger lock and a torn ligament ended up with 2 screws, Frozen Thumb, cast damaged the right hand especially the index finger. I like you am Monodextrous. I also CCW, quilt, and crochet, now I can’t do any of it. And the Neuropathy is worse. I saved my pain pills for Physio days.
“This was always going to happen - the addicts will get the pills, the ill will get the shaft. I’m sick of this opioid hysteria.”
Unfortunately, our government ALWAYS OVER REACTS. Why it is that they can’t tall who abuses pain medication and who has a chronic problem and maybe isn’t a candidate for surgery and is not abusing the pain med. Like I said, our government always over reacts.
I agree...same thing. I used to have constant back pain. But just walking regularly and eating right takes care of 99% of it.
Intractable pain, also known as Intractable Pain Disease or IP, is a severe, constant pain that is not curable by any known means and which causes a bed or house-bound state and early death if not adequately treated, usually with opioids and/or interventional procedures. Chronic pain is often defined as any pain lasting more than 12 weeks. Whereas acute pain is a normal sensation that alerts us to possible injury, wound, broken bone, labor does not last overly long.
My pain manager is a tennessee doctor
He administers narcotics and muscle relaxers
He does cortisone and toradol shots both intramuscular and spinal
He treats horrible burn victims and amputees many from our wars who suffer excruciating phantom pain
He treats cancer patients especially like carcinoid tumors which go on forever
He treats my cervical and sternal arthritis as well as at least giving an anecdotal help to my chronic congenital heart issues
Plus shoulder pins etc....wounds of an adventurous well lived life
He’s a caring man who likes helping folks ...he’s even at times treated non pain related stuff like once I had a sinus infection he wrote me levaquin
And once gave me a tube of med grade IM lidocaine to rub on a bad tooth
He won’t prescribe OxyContin or Opana or Xanax or Soma
Yet the state and feds are absolutely living up his butt
And freepers who have no idea how overrregulated pain med maintenance already is pearl clutch over this bullshit opioid crisis
It’s a power grab yet again by govt and the states want the funding
Folks are dying from heroin and fentanyl ....over powered poorly measured fentanyl courtesy of Sinoloa and Los Zetas and their fellow travelers
But instead they attack the legal prescriptions for pain relief
Doctors cannot prescribe pell mell anymore
Patients cannot doctor shop at least not for over 18 hours when the database cycles and they will be caught
That is the truth..
Those breast beating here are just ignorant...same as our stupid media
Nursing Homes Sedate Patients https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/05/health/nursing-homes-dementia-antipsychotic-drugs/index.html
Can’t find where I stuffed it but Seniors are on 3 types of Phyche drugs at 1 time even if they don’t need them.
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Intractable pain is a medical disease, it is not curable, fixable nor has any treatment besides pain meds. Treating us as criminals is a infringement of our Constitutional Rights, because some STUPID JACKA$$ Choose to stick a needle of Heroin laced with Fenatyl from Mexico and China into their veins. And has been to Rehab 19+ times. We don’t sell what little we get, nor give it away.
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Boy, are YOU on the wrong forum; plenty of supposed (R)N(C) willing to throw-out Federalism/Constitution to promote their pet-cause du jour. /semi-s
Here, yet again, a ‘solution’ of MORE govt because GOVT (lawyers) put its big, fat camel nose where it has little/no authority.
Amazing we had MORPHINE in every medicine cabinet in the 20th century yet today We can’t buy cold medicine w/o signing away your 1st born.
Send me to PT you get another collapsed spinal disc. PT has collapsed 4 so far. All the Neuropathy pain is from those Collapsed disc. PT is not for everyone. Spinal Degeneration is not treatable, surgery will crumble the spine, screws won’t hold. When you add in Fibromyalgia which is a progressive muscle degenerative disease you can’t rehab muscles or even maintain tone. It even effects your eye muscles.
How are you going to send a Veteran who was gut shot to PT?
PT is not a cure all for many of us. Or we’d over load PT clinics. Most don’t even have a clue how to do PT on us we don’t do well with typical PT. My last session they used Dry Cupping, Stretching, heat/cold and Stim more than actual therapy. Still have a hand that has lost 90% fine motor skills. And I’ve worked the PT daily for a yr besides the 13 weeks I was allowed on Medicare.
10 Myths of Opioid Crisis
https://www.painnewsnetwork.org/stories/2017/12/24/10-myths-about-the-opioid-crisis
Well, there is death as a remedy
Because they are incompetent. Which is why they should never had had their hands on our healthcare.
For those who can do PT, it is critical to find experts.
I was really resistant to doing PT because I went to an HMO for a bad back.
My back was out so bad one time it took me 20 minutes to crawl from my room to the kitchen to get a drink of water and I cried from the pain the whole time.
The HMO people had me doing exercises that made my back worse so I didn’t do them.
No pain pills, not even muscle relaxer.
They put me on PREDNISONE instead which probably contributed to ongoing health issues related to hormone balance.
I’ve spent thousands on chiropractors over the years.
A while back I had a severe hypothyroidism bout where my meds weren’t working. Everything ached. I could barely walk so I wound up sitting in a recliner for a year. I eventually got my thyroid ironed out after I did some research and switched meds to get things back on track.
I decided to try PT again just to document everything and maybe get on disability. I wound up in an excellent facility, got the proper exercises and do them everyday now.
I have very little pain nowadays. If I injure myself, I do half a vike and half a muscle relaxer(was able to get this stuff when I switched medical before the big opiate scare)install the brace and rest a day or two, resume PT and I’m good.
I only have to resort to the evil oipiates once every month or two.
I stockpile my meds. If I have surgery and they give me pain pills, I only take half a dose only if the pain is unbearable and I save the rest for sprains, migraines and extreme back issues.
Last time I had surgery was over a year ago. I still have most of the bottle my doctor prescribed and it was only 30 pills.
The opiod crisis is bullshit and was created and nurtured by our government.
“How did it come to pass that one out of every nine or ten Americans is afflicted with this problem to such a degree as to be dependent on painkillers?”
Remember that scene in Midnight Express where they walked around giving out pills like m&ms? It’s like that. They want a dope addled population.
You started PT too late!
The degeneration you mention would be substantially slowed, or even reversed by weight training started as late as 60 years.
Again, multiple studies on this.
There are women in their 80s lifting weights now.
And yes, you’re right, once a certain threshold is crossed, there is no alternative to opioids. But earlier intervention, by initially denying pain meds and insisting on PT is a far better course.
It’s a negligence crime by your doctors over the decades, starting when you were 50 years old.
I have 3 sisters, 63, 60 and 59. They ALL lift weights now. Of course they are not HEAVY weights like what a man would use, but they do it. And do it regularly.
All 3 have bone mass above average, are not as risk of osteoporosis and are without chronic pain.
It’s the sedentary life that is the source of the vast majority of chronic pain.
Typical Judeo-Christian collective guilt bs. Instead of dealing with the individual abuser, lets just throw everybody in the pokey.
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