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Low Recruit Discipline Prompts Army to Redesign Basic Training
Military.com ^

Posted on 02/10/2018 6:26:58 AM PST by Strac6

The U.S. Army will soon launch a redesign of Basic Combat Training intended to build more discipline after many commanders complained that new soldiers often show up to their first units with a sloppy appearance and undisciplined attitudes.

The program will also feature three new field training exercises that place a greater emphasis on forcing recruits to demonstrate Warrior Tasks and Battle Drills, the list of key skills all soldiers are taught to survive in combat.

The new program of instruction is the result of surveys taken from thousands of leaders who have observed a trend of new soldiers fresh out of training displaying a lack of obedience and poor work ethic as well as being careless with equipment, uniform and appearance,

"What leaders have observed in general is they believe that there is too much of a sense of entitlement, questioning of lawful orders, not listening to instruction, too much of a buddy mentality with NCOs and officers and a lot of tardiness being late to formation and duties,"

"The other big piece we are doing in Basic Combat Training that helps with the esprit de corps and the discipline aspect and also lends a measure of grit and resilience to [BCT] is we have three major field training exercises that we are going to do now. We are calling them the Hammer, the Anvil and the Forge," Frost said, describing how the final Forge FTX is an homage to the Army's historic ties to Valley Forge.

"That is going to be a culminating FTX which is a graduation requirement. It will be an 81-hour field training exercise with about 40 miles of tactical road marching that is conducted through a series of tactical events and mini field training exercises."

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To: DJ Taylor

Understand your concern, but they only have so many hours.

A soldier with discipline can, and will learn to throw the grenade in AIT or elsewhere.

A soldier who can throw the grenade, without discipline, will never throw it in combat, because he will be too busy running away.


21 posted on 02/10/2018 6:47:13 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Redleg Duke

OCS in 1967?

Robinson Barracks?

I was Class 21-67


22 posted on 02/10/2018 6:49:41 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Almost everyone who joined the military when Obama was CIC has MAJOR ISSUES.

Trump is much better, but leaving the homosexual policy in effect is still driving good people away.

And apparently, they’re not going to follow his orders on transsexuals.

There are no fags or trannies running around in the Russian, Iranian,Chinese, and North Korean armed forces.


23 posted on 02/10/2018 6:50:11 AM PST by Rome2000 (OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO WIN THE WAR)
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To: Strac6

Dad was a marine. WW2. He couldn’t stand watching any of the History channel shows with R Lee Ermey. Brought back some nasty memories I suppose.


24 posted on 02/10/2018 6:50:49 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Redleg Duke

P.S.

Care to Jark?

:)


25 posted on 02/10/2018 6:50:52 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Strac6

Army Basic in Ft Knox in 1981. US Coast Guard Basic in Cape May in 1986. (Any body else do it twice?)

DI’s did all they could, I am sure. We had no gays, cross dressers, snowflakes or social justice warriors, just your everyday run of the mill slackers and malcontents.

Any one up for 2 or 3 100 count push-ups? (yeah, me neither, BUT back in the day I woulda had your ass!)


26 posted on 02/10/2018 6:54:44 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: DJ Taylor

Because the truly stupid will either blow themselves up or fall off a cliff.


27 posted on 02/10/2018 6:57:10 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Vaquero

The boot camp scene in ‘Full Metal Jacket’ was spot on ... We had a recruit named ‘Ellis’ that froze up (literally) - couldn’t speak when questioned - he washed out after one week and earned the name, ‘Ellis in Wonderland’ ... OMG, the best of times, the worst of times ...


28 posted on 02/10/2018 6:57:49 AM PST by 11th_VA (People who deny reality often do not live to regret it.)
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To: 11th_VA

“Great stories to tell...”

Do you remember the short arm inspection?


29 posted on 02/10/2018 7:01:59 AM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: dp0622

They took the power to dicipline children away from teachers and now we have selfish, entitled snowflakes. They will try this method with the military to further weaken us.


30 posted on 02/10/2018 7:03:25 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: onedoug
I'm thankful every day that I was in that Army, and not today's.

I feel the same way about The Air Force. I'm quite sure today I would be court martialed. At least it appears that the "touchy, feely" days of 0bama's snowflake military are finally coming to an end.

31 posted on 02/10/2018 7:06:49 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Strzok and Page - The very definition of SEDITION and TREASON!)
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To: Strac6

Th enevitable results of pressure on recruiters and signing bonuses. Wish I could offer up a solution!!!


32 posted on 02/10/2018 7:09:34 AM PST by ontap
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To: DJ Taylor
"The new BCT does, however, do away with hand grenade qualification and land navigation course qualification as graduation requirements."

WTF


Grenade training was literally one day. That can be handled at the AIT or unit level. Land Nav I agree. The only thing I can think is GPS has made it obsolete in the trainer's eyes. That is a mistake.
33 posted on 02/10/2018 7:09:44 AM PST by simon says what
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To: Strac6

Oh boy...maybe they could start out with coloring books.

“STAY INSIDE THE LINES RECRUIT! Didn’t your mama ever teach you anything?”


34 posted on 02/10/2018 7:11:37 AM PST by moovova
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To: NTHockey

It was the same when I was there!!!

Semper Fi
Platoon 2007 Jun-Sept 1967 (the James Bond platoon)
San Diego (Hollywood Marine)


35 posted on 02/10/2018 7:14:41 AM PST by ontap
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To: alternatives?
Do you remember the short arm inspection?

I do not (Navy boot camp 1975)

36 posted on 02/10/2018 7:16:35 AM PST by 11th_VA (People who deny reality often do not live to regret it.)
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To: Strac6

I dunno. Every time I walk past a group of junior Soldiers, they pop to attention. Maybe that’s because in the Medical Department, people need to be smart to get through the schooling—and it takes discipline to stick with challenging academic subjects.

I used to tell a friend, every time we would be walking around and young Soldiers would pop to attention, that they are so cute at that age. Because when they mature into NCOs, they do not pop any more.


37 posted on 02/10/2018 7:18:30 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Lurker

“They might try putting Marine Corps Drill Instructors in charge of basic training for a year or so.”

Not any more. Even the Marines have rules against cussing, touching, or harassing recruits in any way.


38 posted on 02/10/2018 7:20:20 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Strac6

I suspect some of the problem, also, is having females in the training.


39 posted on 02/10/2018 7:24:36 AM PST by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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To: CodeToad

“What leaders have observed in general is they believe that there is too much of a sense of entitlement, questioning of lawful orders, not listening to instruction, too much of a buddy mentality with NCOs and officers and a lot of tardiness being late to formation and duties,”

It doesn’t help they they let the Soldiers get married and have kids these days, all on the govt dime. They move out of the barracks and are afforded govt housing, even as PVTs.... And so many single parents using kids as an excuse to be absent.


40 posted on 02/10/2018 7:31:25 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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