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Napoleon was the Best General Ever, and the Math Proves it.
Towards Data Science ^ | December 4. 2017 | Ethan Arsht

Posted on 01/05/2018 9:50:10 AM PST by C19fan

Like Hannibal, I wanted to rank powerful leaders in the history of warfare. Unlike Hannibal, I sought to use data to determine a general’s abilities, rather than specific accounts of generals’ achievements. The result is a system for ranking every prominent commander in military history.

(Excerpt) Read more at towardsdatascience.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: france; gigo; godsgravesglyphs; napoleon; napoleonicwars; war
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To: C19fan

Daniel Morgan.


101 posted on 01/05/2018 12:19:15 PM PST by lowtaxsmallgov (Finally, an Administration that knows how to grow an economy!! MAGA!)
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To: C19fan

MSU Georgi Zhukov.


102 posted on 01/05/2018 12:22:14 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe
a nice analysis

Well thank you. I like other parts of history too. :)

103 posted on 01/05/2018 12:35:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

As do I.


104 posted on 01/05/2018 12:45:50 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe
Here is an example Spotsylvania CH:

USA 18,399 (2,725 killed, 13,416 wounded, 2,258 captured/missing)

CSA 12,687(1,515 killed, 5,414 wounded, 5,758 captured/missing)

Another example Cold Harbor:

USA 12,738 total 1,845 killed 9,077 wounded 1,816 captured/missing

CSA 5,287 total 788 killed 3,376 wounded 1,123 captured/missing

USA 50% more casualties. Grant was a butcher. He could afford to be.

105 posted on 01/05/2018 12:52:14 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Being a successful general means being able to pay the butcher’s bill.

Lee and Grant knew that. General’s like Burnside knew it, but, couldn’t pay it. General’s like Brag could pay it, but, paid it poorly.


106 posted on 01/05/2018 12:59:52 PM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: C19fan

GARBAGE.

This author admits:

“I rely heavily on Wikipedia for data and the categorization of that data.”


107 posted on 01/05/2018 1:07:29 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: central_va

Spotsylvania Court House, 17% Union casualties, 20% Confederate casualties, for the forces involved.
Cold Harbor 11.5% Union casualties for forces involved.
Gettysburg 34% casualties in the Army of Northern Virginia.
47% casualties for Pickett’s assault force.
Grant suffered more casualties, but as a percentage of forces involved, lower than Lee. But what is much more important to the issue is that within a few weeks, Lee’s Army will be locked up in Petersburg. There it will wither on the vine. Grant will be victorious. At least Grant, in his memoirs admitted “the assault on Cold Harbor was the worst mistake I ever made.” Lee, on the other hand not once admitted that 47% casualties suffered at Cemetery Ridge was a mistake on his part.


108 posted on 01/05/2018 1:28:20 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Pelham

That’s what I got from your concise statement. I just made it verbose to spread your point even on a casual reading.


109 posted on 01/05/2018 1:34:22 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: circlecity

Chancellorsville.


110 posted on 01/05/2018 1:34:35 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Malvern Hill, Gettysburg


111 posted on 01/05/2018 1:40:46 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: C19fan
Interesting effort, but the question it asks is, “Given that you are going to fight Battle X, who would be the guy most likeley to win for you?

That’s fine, but it doesn’t factor in the question, “Given that you are fighting War X, who would be the guy who can come out victorious not just in any particular battle but in a whole war?

Napoleon comes out great in winning battles. Winning wars, not quite so well. Conversely with George Washington, who didn’t win many battles, but stuck to a strategic vision which ultimately succeeded.

The concept of the Pyrhic victory enters in; the British won a lot of battles but not the war, which means that they failed to force and win the battles they needed to win.

Similarly the War of 1812 wound down with British defeat on Lake Champlain, failure to take Baltimore, and rout at New Orleans. When you lose the last battle of a war, prior successes will retrospectively come to seem Pyrhic in nature.


112 posted on 01/05/2018 1:45:00 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: Pollster1

Thanks. I appreciate your contribution.


113 posted on 01/05/2018 1:45:50 PM PST by Pelham (all warfare is based on deception)
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To: C19fan

The way that Napoleon abandoned his soldiers in Russia was certainly an example of superior Generalship.


114 posted on 01/05/2018 1:52:14 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PGR88

Patton didn’t seem all that worried about destroying armor. He wanted to cut through to the rear wherever possible. I may be wrong about that, but he’d gain ground in dozens of miles a day.


115 posted on 01/05/2018 2:15:42 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Napoleon also abandoned his soldiers in Egypt.


116 posted on 01/05/2018 2:20:05 PM PST by circlecity
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To: RinaseaofDs

Thus in this thread who are so uncritical of Patton need to read this book

https://www.amazon.com/Death-Traps-Survival-American-Division/dp/0891418148/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1515190881&sr=8-2&keywords=death+on+armored+division

to get another perspective.

An incident in this book is the kernel of the movie ‘FURY’.


117 posted on 01/05/2018 2:24:26 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

Thus = Those


118 posted on 01/05/2018 2:25:39 PM PST by Reily
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To: circlecity

You’re right. Forgot about that.


119 posted on 01/05/2018 2:45:54 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: C19fan; SunkenCiv
Can somebody explain why Genghis Khan would not be considered, hands down, the greatest general in history?

I mean, who could ever forget how Genghis Kahn invaded Vietnam?

John Kerry on Genghis Kahn


120 posted on 01/05/2018 2:53:09 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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