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Why are good men so hard to find?
The Toronto Globe and Mail ^ | September 23, 2017 | Margaret Wente

Posted on 09/24/2017 3:31:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Spend a little time with single women in their early to mid-30s, and you'll be grateful you're not one of them. The relationship scene is even more dismal today than when I was their age. All the women want serious relationships that lead to marriage, but many of the men they meet do not. All too often a woman moves in with some guy, hoping they're on the road to somewhere. Two years later, he tells her he's not ready for marriage and kids just yet. Splat.

But wait. Hasn't online dating made the mating market easier? Yes – for men. If you really want to hear a woman rant, just utter the word Tinder.

Single women are more equal and empowered than ever before. They have unparalleled sexual, reproductive and economic autonomy. In many ways, they're doing much better than the men. (Just look at the lopsided university graduation rates, which are now around 60-40). And yet, large numbers of young women admit their private lives are a sad mess.

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If you're a gender studies major, stop reading here. You're going to hate what I've got to say next. I don't like it much myself.

In a nutshell, over the past few decades, the traditional relationship exchange has broken down. It used to be that men and women each had something the other really needed. Men needed access to sex. Women needed access to resources. Men couldn't get steady access to sex unless they had resources to offer, so they worked hard for them. The partnership between men and women was a grand bargain that (usually) left both sides better off.

For men, sex was traditionally expensive. The price tag was a long-term commitment to provide for a woman (and children). But today, sex is cheap. And that changes everything.

This is the premise of a bracing new book, Cheap Sex, by American sociologist Mark Regnerus. Sex got cheap because of three technological developments: the advent of the Pill, which divorced fertility from sex; the onset of mass-produced, high-quality pornography; and the arrival of online dating sites, which make it easy for men to find willing sex partners.

Sexual liberation is a fabulous thing – in some ways. But it can also turn men into louts, because women don't expect much in return for access. Today, most men can have all the sex they want for very little cost – no fancy dinner required. The irony, as Mr. Regnerus writes, is that today's mating market is probably more dominated by men's interests than ever before.

When women complain that marriageable men (sober, steady good providers) are harder to find than ever, they may well be right. The marriage rate is falling steadily, especially among the lower middle class, while long-term stable marriage is increasingly a privilege reserved for the better off.

A lot of women seem to have their act together these days. But a lot of men don't. "I think the greatest, most astonishing fact that I am aware of in social science right now is that women have been able to hear the labour market screaming out 'You need more education'… and men have not," MIT economics professor Michael Greenstone says in Cheap Sex.

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What might explain this puzzling fact? Men don't have to prove themselves as providers any more. They can get all the sex they want anyway – including online porn on demand that can make the real thing feel mildly disappointing. (Ask younger women about men and porn. You'll get an earful.)

Like it or not, women have always been the gatekeepers for sex – not because they don't like sex, too, but because (no matter what you learned in gender studies) men's sex drive is innately higher. This means it's up to us to make the rules. "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" my father used to say. It drove me crazy when he said that. Now, it's dawned on me that he was right.

Since the women's cartel collapsed, women's bargaining power has seriously eroded. That's why so many single women hate Tinder, which has further commodified sex for the benefit of men. Women are just another consumer good in the shop window.

It may take a village to raise a child. But it takes a village to raise a husband, too. And modern society has largely abdicated from the job. "Good husband material doesn't occur naturally, but is instead the product (in part) of socialization, development, and social control," Mr. Regnerus writes. "[I]n the domain of sex and relationships men will act as nobly as women collectively demand."

Time to get our act together, ladies. If we don't, they won't either.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: men; relationships; sex; women
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Why are good men so hard to find?"

Because good women were so hard to find.


101 posted on 09/24/2017 5:13:19 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: bgill
Diversity is our strength!

One love.

102 posted on 09/24/2017 5:14:35 PM PDT by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Same old same old.

Women complaining.

Blame shifting. Guilt shaming. Projecting what they do onto men.

On deaf ears. Most modern women are not biblical wife material. That is why.

Women wil counter many men are not either, typical of above tactics, that does not change the fact most women are not biblical marriage material. Instead they are women the bible says to avoid.

And men are avoiding them. They think they are awesome and that their babymaker, which they have let dozens of guys use, commands a high premium.


103 posted on 09/24/2017 5:15:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

They are not strong and smart.


104 posted on 09/24/2017 5:16:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jaz.357

A good girl. That’s a laugh.


105 posted on 09/24/2017 5:17:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Yaelle
kind and considerate

Kind and considerate lives in the friend zone. Mix in a pinch of obnoxious. Chicks dig it.

The love doctor is in.

106 posted on 09/24/2017 5:18:24 PM PDT by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: bagster
Is that wrong? Should I not have done that?

George Castanza, is that you?


107 posted on 09/24/2017 5:18:57 PM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: kara37

Most women in modern countries are sluts by biblical standards and men are admonished to stay away from them.

Women do not date just any man either. Thing is though they are the ones concerned about marrying an atm/repairguy,,so more emphasis is on them to be marriage material a guy would consider asking.

Guys do fine on their own. Women do not.


108 posted on 09/24/2017 5:20:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: newfreep

hahahaha....You get me, you really really get me. My comedy is not wasted around these parts.


109 posted on 09/24/2017 5:21:34 PM PDT by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: Fido969

Dont expect much...
Are you freaking kidding me?


110 posted on 09/24/2017 5:22:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Marriage today is a racket run by women for women, enforced by the courts and the jails.

Many men, like Robin Williams, arrive exhausted at retirement age, with a screaming, money-devouring leech still attached.


111 posted on 09/24/2017 5:23:27 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Don't worry Secret Agent Man. You'll find the right biblical woman one day. Chicks dig cheerful, positive fellows like you.

The love doctor is in.

112 posted on 09/24/2017 5:24:13 PM PDT by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; dp0622; Kalamata
And the sun rises in the East. And water is wet.

George Gilder wrote all about this in Sexual Suicide (1973), and Pope Paul VI predicted it in Humanae Vitae (1968).

And we're expecting a cold winter.

113 posted on 09/24/2017 5:30:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Justice and Judgment are the foundation of His Throne.)
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To: YogicCowboy
I am not interested.

Yes, I admit I am bitter. I practiced what was preached in modern America’s churchianity, and was punished.

In which type of church(es) or faith communities did you have these experiences ?

Your tale rings a bell and I expect there were women interested in you earlier in the story whose interest you did not reciprocate. Such is the human condition.

I like Leonard Cohen's dry wit when he wrote :

Now maybe there's a God above,
As for me, all I ever learned from love
Is how to shoot at someone who outdrew you.
and it's no complaint you hear tonight,
and It's not some pilgrim who's seen the light
it's a cold and it's a very lonely Hallelujah.


114 posted on 09/24/2017 5:30:57 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
And we're expecting a cold winter.

Ayuh. I hear tell winter is comin'

*spit*

115 posted on 09/24/2017 5:32:52 PM PDT by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Add soy to that...just like estrogen.


116 posted on 09/24/2017 5:34:30 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

anger and porn...


117 posted on 09/24/2017 5:35:15 PM PDT by heavensgate
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To: af_vet_1981

That is a fine verse.

And the rhyme of ‘who outdrew ya’ and ‘Hallelujah’ is even finer.


118 posted on 09/24/2017 5:35:57 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: af_vet_1981

And the award goes to af vet 1981, for best musical reference in a battle of the sexes thread.


119 posted on 09/24/2017 5:37:14 PM PDT by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Anyone who writes that men prefer porn and masturbation over a real live woman is a dullard at best.

It fails to occur to her that if men really do prefer porn and masturbation, that is an indictment of modern women. :)

120 posted on 09/24/2017 5:38:23 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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