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Anger as Irish must pass English-speaking test to become Canadian
IrishCentral ^ | August 16, 2017 | Frances Mulraney

Posted on 08/18/2017 4:51:37 AM PDT by Mechanicos

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To: mewzilla

I agree with you. If the Irish are putting up a fuss before they even get through the door, I’d rethink inviting them in. I don’t know what it is about the Irish these days but they have gone from being a wonderfully religious people to being radical creeps.


21 posted on 08/18/2017 5:31:20 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Mechanicos

It’s silly to complain about such a simple test and the expense is fairly minor. Government run education has declined in quality in all the English speaking countries. So having a test for English proficiency is not without merit.


22 posted on 08/18/2017 5:32:07 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: miss marmelstein

I suppose these immigrants to Canada should be relieved that they are not also subjected to a test in their degree of fluency in Quebecois French, as well.

People who are native French scarcely understand it.


23 posted on 08/18/2017 5:32:23 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Has their use of Gaelic affected their use of English? I ask because I used to have a job that occasionally required me to take customer calls from Canada. On a number of occasions I got calls from French speakers from Quebec and they couldn’t speak English to me. They also appeared not to understand me at all.


24 posted on 08/18/2017 5:36:02 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: mewzilla

Could be amharic or urdu if from some towns.


25 posted on 08/18/2017 5:38:54 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

No, it doesn’t although because of the Gaelic, the Irish have trouble with the “th” sound which doesn’t exist in their own language. It’s why they’ll say “tink” instead of “think.” (Of course, I’m sure many Irish take pains to pronounce English words correctly.) But they’re all fluent in English.


26 posted on 08/18/2017 5:39:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

my kids went to school in Ireland ( 1990) and they had to take Gaelic classes.


27 posted on 08/18/2017 5:41:59 AM PDT by ronniesgal (still winning (and a self satisfied Pr!ck, according to WMarshal))
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To: Mechanicos
Young Irish immigrants in Canada have expressed their annoyance at being forced to undertake an English-proficiency test, despite English being their first language, when applying for Canadian permanent resident status.

They don't learn Gaelic anymore?

28 posted on 08/18/2017 5:45:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ronniesgal

Well, we learn English in our homes but still take lessons in it at school, don’t we?


29 posted on 08/18/2017 6:03:33 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Ah, the bad old “th” sound! I teach ESL and I know that is a problem for a lot of people. It is a problem for some Chicagoans, too. Da Bulls!


30 posted on 08/18/2017 6:26:01 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Mechanicos

Considering EU immigration policies, you can’t count on anyone from any European country to be able to speak the native language. Just take the test and be done with it. It’s not difficult like a Scotsman trying to speak English. :-)


31 posted on 08/18/2017 6:26:27 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Finnegan’s Wake


32 posted on 08/18/2017 6:26:59 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Why is it when I visit Toronto I encounter numerous Arabs, Indians, Chinese, Africans, etc., who don’t speak either French or English? Try to order in English in a ChinaTown restaurant. Our immigration standards are a farce.


33 posted on 08/18/2017 6:28:38 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: Alberta's Child
Mexican Americans take Spanish at night school and get a B
34 posted on 08/18/2017 6:30:11 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Mechanicos

That’s really racist!

Do the Canutes apply the same strict standards to Scots, people from Wales or any of the 29 dialects of Britain?


35 posted on 08/18/2017 6:30:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Voting for Trump to be our President, made 62+ million of us into Dumb Deplorable Colluders, MAGA!!!)
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To: FatherofFive

“They should test the Scots!”

Hey Laddie, that is really racist!

No one has been able to understand us when we talk and rant for centuries. Why do it now!


36 posted on 08/18/2017 6:32:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Voting for Trump to be our President, made 62+ million of us into Dumb Deplorable Colluders, MAGA!!!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

A lot of the old city regional accents were based on the Irish accent. “Da,” (The) “Tirty Tird and Tird” (Thirty Third and Third Street). Alas, it’s being displaced by other accents.


37 posted on 08/18/2017 6:33:12 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Mechanicos

Tell them to get over. They will ace it, I would assume.


38 posted on 08/18/2017 6:34:10 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: mewzilla

Amen.


39 posted on 08/18/2017 6:35:15 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: Mechanicos

My senior year, I had a great English Teacher here in heartland America.

One of her favorite comments was: The English, Canadians, Scots, Irish, Australians, New Zealanders and Americans, a common people separated by an uncommon language, English!


40 posted on 08/18/2017 6:38:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Voting for Trump to be our President, made 62+ million of us into Dumb Deplorable Colluders, MAGA!!!)
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