Brawls erupt as torch-wielding white supremacists march through University of Virginia campus

Daily News ^ | 8/12/17 | Jessica Chia

[Timpanagos1]

Dozens of white nationalists marched through the University of Virginia campus on Friday night carrying torches while chanting “You will not replace us.”

The demonstrators, who also yelled "blood and soil", a phrase tied to Nazi ideology, made their way through the Charlottesville campus before encircling a group of counterprotesters gathered around a statue of Thomas Jefferson.

A fight broke out, and some of the white nationalists swung their tiki torches at people, according to the Daily Progress.

Protesters wielding torches march through campus chanted "You will not replace us".

Members of both sides were reportedly hit with pepper spray, and several people were treated at the scene for minor injuries.

Police arrived on campus, declared it an unlawful assembly, and ordered the crowds to disperse. At least one person was arrested.

[Jonty30]

My belief is that the KKK is funded by the Democrats, because their rallying against white supremacy have been very successful at gaining power.

[tumblindice]

I’m a white guy and a patriot. You two noobs are telling me those are bad things?
Go eff yourselves.

[deadrock]

There is two possible ways to interrupt "Jews will not replace us!”

1. We do not want Jews in our midst. - disgusting.

2. We do not want Jews pushing diversity/immigration on us.

One does not have to be a holocaust denier to notice that number two is well under way. Name one wealthy Jew that is against diversity/perversity, pushing for the obliteration of Europe and beyond. Zuckerberg and Soros are on the leading edge.

Are all Jews for the destruction of Europe/whites? Of course not. But men with exorbitant wealth are.

[sargon]

It makes you wonder what the hell these guys are even getting at that that line of discussion even came up.

That's for sure...

[Kalamata]

What are you talking about? I love white guys and patriots.
Have a nice day. LOL.

[dennisw]

Black supremacist— OK
Han Chinese supremacist— OK
La Raza supremacist— OK
Muslim supremacist— OK
White supremacist— BAD BAD BAD will not be tolerated or allowed.

Yes the Han think they are the best, same as countless other tribes and peoples throughout history.

And was this march actually a white supremacist march? Probably was more like a protest against removal of Confederate monuments, which brain dead libs like to see these days. Its the latest liberal fad.

[Timpanagos1]

Black supremacist— OK
Han Chinese supremacist— OK
La Raza supremacist— OK
Muslim supremacist— OK
White supremacist— BAD BAD BAD will not be tolerated or allowed.

they are all equally defective.

[dennisw]

Who knew that the libs would be so scared by tiki torches? This was like holding a cross up against a vampire.

[dennisw]

How about Hawaiian, Samoan and Aleutian supremacists. Are they OK with you?
Pass the poi bro.

[Regulator]

On the contrary, it was an overtly hypocritical policy which violated the noble principles of the Revolution itself

Well, they didn't think so. It was no different from the multitude of nations within the American continent at the time: the Cherokee nation, the Iroquois nation, the white anglo-saxon nation....you do realize that these people all considered themselves different enough that they were separate nations, right?

The thing that was hypocritical was claiming that Africans had no rights at all. But even that was pretty common then - every white person in England was essentially a slave of the Crown. What every President up through Lincoln believed is that the Africans formed their own nation, separate from whites. That some of them were Freedmen and could hold property was considered an anomaly - just a small percentage of society. As Taney said in Dred Scott: reading the Constitution literally, it was a compact among white men and no others.

Taney was right. Unfortunately, it still outraged people that a slave remained a slave, and that was one of the catalysts for the war. But not the only one.

Eventually, we fought a bloody Civil War which established the principle that separate nations were not to be carved out from the United States

Odd how that principle doesn't exist in the Declaration, and hangs by a thread in the Constitution. At least you didn't say it was to free the slaves, because we all know that Lincoln only thought of that peripherally. He also thought of the Africans as a separate nation who should leave, as you must know too.

Consequently, we ratified the 14th Amendment, which definitively established the right of Blacks—and any other color of person—to birthright citizenship

Actually many believe the 14th was never ratified since the Southern states were excluded from the vote. That's how they ended up with military governors and Reconstruction. You can read some of the points: Fourteenth Amendment never ratified

Hardly any white people in the South agreed with it, and the same in the North. The Radical Republicans pushed it through with a variety of un-Constitutional tactics.

It may be noble sounding, but was it what the white populace wanted, or do their opinions not count?

If you took a vote in 1865 of all the whites in the United States that said: do you want non-whites voting in your elections and possibly ruling you, what do you think the outcome of such a vote would be?

We all know the answer. But the Radicals did not care and used blunt force to impose non-white inclusion into what had been a free association of white people. They could do that since nobody in Ohio and Illinois actually thought large numbers of freed slaves were going to come to their states: they even passed bond requirements for freedmen to live in their states. Now who's the hypocrite?

The fourteenth amendment has been used by all sorts of bad actors to effect really bad things: queer "marriage" being just the latest. The "equal protection of the laws" has been construed to mean "stop anything that white males believe is part of their society". So as far as "who would want to go back", the answer is....a lot of people. You can't unilaterally tell a group of people that they must live under a law that dispossesses them of the society their ancestors created. You can abolish slavery and still believe that.

A multi-ethnic, mult-racial society is not viable because of human nature. Civic nationalism is an abstraction that remains unproven, and was largely imposed at the point of a gun, not by common consent. If you believe that it's OK to do that, fine, but don't call it "democracy" or think that my ancestors at King's Mountain were fighting for it. They were fighting for self determination, and freedom of association.

[af_vet_rr]

Why do I suspect it didn’t transpire quite like the story tells it?

When you see video of white-nationalist pieces of trash yelling out Nazi phrases, or videos and photos of them carrying torches and throwing out Nazi salutes, it's kind of hard to misinterpret that.

A small part of me is glad that my dad and some of the other WWII vets in my family are not around to see this - they would be absolutely sick over the sight of white nationalist pieces of trash latching onto the Nazi ideology that his generation fought against.

[af_vet_rr]

Torch lit processions look fantastic. White people standing up for themselves is something new and exciting.

No, what is on display is anti-Christian white trash at its worst, celebrating Nazi ideology.

Real conservatives and Christians like my father and his generation fought against the white-supremacist/anti-Jewish trash that you and your ilk celebrate, and they kicked their asses all over Europe.

[af_vet_rr]

I believe that is called the Roman salute.

I believe they are not celebrating the Romans.

Unless the Romans were carrying around Nazi flags from World War II.

[af_vet_rr]

Bloody morons. Half of the time I seriously wonder if you guys are leftist plants. The moment you break out the flat-hand salutes it will be damn obvious.

Look through the video and photos - plenty of those salutes are around.

And I do believe those guys supporting this online (including here at FR) are leftist plants. The more they can try and associate Conservatives and conservative sites like FR and Christians in general, with Hitler and his ilk, the more damage they can do to those of us who are actually Conservatives.

[Yulee]

Soros sponsored march?

It fits with his origins.

[sargon]

At least you didn't say it was to free the slaves, because we all know that Lincoln only thought of that peripherally.

Oh, it was definitely to free the slaves, Lincolns feeling notwithstanding. It wasn't Lincoln whose sons were giving their lives by the tens of thousands to fight the "righteous cause".

The Battle Hymn of the Republic makes it pretty clear:

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on. 

From Wikipedia:

The “Battle Hymn of the Republic”, also known as “Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory” outside of the United States, is a song by American writer Julia Ward Howe using the music from the song “John Brown’s Body.” Howe’s more famous lyrics were written in November 1861, and first published in The Atlantic Monthly in February 1862.

So—by the time the Civil War was well under way—the abolitionist movement was becoming a bona fide crusade, and without that "righteous cause" to justify the slaughter and unify the rank and file, the North may very well have faltered.

History has made its judgement. You're free to disagree with it, but you will remain in a distinct minority if you believe the Civil War wasn't ultimately fought to free the slaves, IMHO.

[Yulee]

“And I do believe those guys supporting this online (including here at FR) are leftist plants. The more they can try and associate Conservatives and conservative sites like FR and Christians in general, with Hitler and his ilk, the more damage they can do to those of us who are actually Conservatives. “

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Agree!

Socialism is the root of the majority of modern evil.
Nazis and Neo-Nazis are socialist.
Communist are socialist.
BLM are socialist.
Occupy Wall Street are socialist.
The Democrat Party is socialist.

All hid behind mask, in order to deceive.

[semantic]

Toddster, how you doing? Nice new tag you acquired after your last ban. However, I see you're back to your trollish behavior. It's (not) puzzling why some have a deep seated need to bring attention to themselves in such a crude, demeaning way.

For those wasting time attempting to argue with Todd - oops, I meant Chimpanagos, you should be aware of a couple of rhetorical devices xir (or whatever gender fluid state it currently claims) uses in which to bait and troll.

For a complete list, you can check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies, but for a quick summary, Chimp prefers to utilize "proof by assertion". By claiming legitimacy from long-standing politically correct propaganda, Todd attempts to force 'deniers' into a defensive position.

Since anyone taking a stance other than the currently approved position will then be guilty of 'wrong think', they are forced to defend their position, rather than the asserter being require to prove its. We see it in every avenue of life; those less astute with respect to the (dark) craft of shaping public opinion can't seem to understand how to escape the rhetorical box into which they've been placed.

What you must do is call out these practitioners with the very device they attempt to use: make them defend group think, as well as question the motives as to why such a platform was put in place (ie the long march through the institutions, primarily control of media and academics) to create a plank in which pawns like Chimp can practice their propaganda techniques.

[af_vet_rr]

Socialism is the root of the majority of modern evil.
Nazis and Neo-Nazis are socialist.
Communist are socialist.
BLM are socialist.
Occupy Wall Street are socialist.
The Democrat Party is socialist

All hid behind mask, in order to deceive.

Amen. Those Neo-Nazi /white-supremacist types in Charlottesville celebrate a nation that slaughtered innocent people by gas and bullet. They celebrate men like this who would gun down a woman and her child because they were of the same religion as Jesus Christ:



Those of us who are Christian, American, and conservative, we celebrate men like this - who were willing to give their lives for their country and to liberate innocent people being slaughtered:

[Bonemaker]

It,