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July 1857
Harper's Magazine archives (subscription required) ^ | July 1857

Posted on 07/01/2017 6:20:50 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed. To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.

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1 posted on 07/01/2017 6:20:50 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Causes and Prevention of Epidemics – 2-11
Monthly Record of Current Events * – 12-15
Editor’s Drawer – 15-21
Family Daguerreotypes, found every where – 22-23
Fashions for July – 24-25

* “The state of things in Utah has during the past month occupied a large share of public attention. In order to check the treasonable designs of the Mormon leaders, it has been determined by the President to send a considerable military force to this Territory, under the command of General Harney. Brigham Young is to be removed from his post as Governor . . .”

Report on Kansas Governor Walker’s address of May 24.

New York wants to move their Quarantine establishment from Staten Island to Sandy Hook, in New Jersey, but the legislature of that state forbids it. Meanwhile, a Staten Island mob burned the buildings there meant to temporarily house the hospital.

The Burdell murder trial ended with no convictions.

Federal authorities attempted to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act in Ohio and were vigorously resisted by Ohioans.

Marines were called to quell a battle between Democratic and American Party combatants in Washington. Six were killed and 15 or 20 injured.

Pearls discovered in Patterson, NJ.

Dred Scott has been emancipated.

Insurrection by Mexican Catholic clergy suppressed. Province of Sonora invaded by Californians led by Col. Crabbe.

“The enterprise of Walker in Nicaragua has at length come to an end, for the present at least.” A lengthy account of same follows.

Current events end with news of Europe and The East. Treaty negotiations between Great Britain and Persia included a battle costing 10 British and 200 Persian lives.

Additional U.S. troops have reached China. “Seventeen piratical junks were destroyed by boats from the steamer Hornet.”

And so on.

2 posted on 07/01/2017 6:23:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Very interesting. Thanks for posting!


3 posted on 07/01/2017 7:06:38 AM PDT by RealVirginia
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Cholera is caused by humidity and a high dew point? Wow, now that’s some real science! I’m sure they never thought that their great scientific discoveries were going to be laughed at as much as we laugh at the fashion of the day; dresses with hoops the size of battleships.

I’m also sure that today’s scientists would get quite indignant if you suggested that some day, people of the future will laugh at them just as much. **cough cough**Global warming**cough cough**

In another vein, look at the disparity in casualties in the skirmish between the British and Persians. We are at the beginning of the period of greatest European colonial power, and it’s because the gap between European military technology and organization and the rest of the world will never be larger. With the exception of Adowa in 1898, when the Ethiopians upset the Italians, and one or two skirmishes in South Africa, any battle between Eurpoeans and the natives will be a blowout in favor of the Europeans. I supppose you could include Litte Big Horn, too. However, the common denominator in these fights is that the natives must have overwhelming numerical superiority and are willing to suffer enormous casualties to “win.”

Kind of ironic that H. G. Wells’ book “War of the Worlds” was a commentary on this; to the natives, the European armies could well have been a vastly superior alien technology. Wells was reminding his readers that “there is always a bigger fish,” even though in 1897 there were no bigger fish in the pond.


4 posted on 07/01/2017 7:17:06 AM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

BookMarking


5 posted on 07/01/2017 7:20:09 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Wow-- a gay wedding poem too. Plus a democrat quoting and reading scripture ('


6 posted on 07/01/2017 9:00:28 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Thanks for the class.

In the fwiw dept, there were large numbers of Mormons killed during that period.

Imho the Seventh day Adventist’s doctrines are unusual, but it didn’t require killing them.

5.56mm


7 posted on 07/01/2017 9:15:24 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe

Oh, and 10 years later a very large number of native Americans (Sioux, Crow, Cherokee, etc.)

5.56mm


8 posted on 07/01/2017 9:19:51 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Continued from June 25 (Reply #43). See the June 25 entry for a link to the Florence Wikipedia page. The evident dreariness of the place is not mentioned.

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The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

9 posted on 07/02/2017 7:02:37 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; henkster

I like the “Family Daguerreotypes” on page 23 and 24, especially, “Sister Mary Ann, who writes poetry.”


10 posted on 07/02/2017 12:03:51 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Golden Rule. Just that.)
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To: henkster
Cholera is caused by humidity and a high dew point? Wow, now that’s some real science!

By the 1850s, "Sanitationists" such as Florence Nightingale had correlated cholera and many other diseases with dirty water and dirty people, but they were unaware of the specific means of transmission of various diseases. They knew that alcoholic beverages were usually safer than water, but they didn't know that a tot of gin in a gallon of water would make it safe to drink. They knew that boiling clothes and sheets would kill vermin and reduce disease, but they didn't know that boiling also kills germs in water or on surfaces.

11 posted on 07/02/2017 12:09:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Golden Rule. Just that.)
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They knew that boiling clothes and sheets would kill vermin and reduce disease, but they didn't know that boiling also kills germs in water or on surfaces.

The failure of medical science of the time to make that connection would cost the Lincoln family a son a few years later.

12 posted on 07/02/2017 12:21:52 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; henkster

That was very sad. They were so close: they even recognized that tea and coffee were safer than water, but they thought it was the tea or coffee plants, rather than because the beverages were made with boiling water.


13 posted on 07/02/2017 12:36:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Golden Rule. Just that.)
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Cousin Carrie:

Just.

Plain.

Nuts.


14 posted on 07/02/2017 6:29:10 PM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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We’re only two years away from Louis Pasteur’s discovery of the germ theory of disease. If the medical community had been a little more receptive and a little less anti-Semitic toward Ignaz Semmelweis a decade earlier, we would already have the germ theory. But Pasteur was ridiculed and Semmelweis was presumably beaten to death in a mental hospital instead.

The Lysenkoists weren’t invented by Stalin in the 1930s. As Galileo knew, they’ve always been with us.


15 posted on 07/02/2017 6:47:18 PM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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To: henkster

She writes for the magazines! Perhaps Gothic horror tales, like Louisa May Alcott.


16 posted on 07/02/2017 7:15:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Golden Rule. Just that.)
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To: henkster; Homer_J_Simpson

The “four-humors” theory hung on and on and on, even as pragmatic medical practice, and surgery with hands washed was saving lives.

It’s just hard to teach people anything. You can’t read the Bible without coming to this conclusion.


17 posted on 07/02/2017 7:17:35 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Golden Rule. Just that.)
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[Continued from July 2 (reply #9).]

July 4, SATURDAY. The customary din is raging without. The Chinese War has raised the price and diminished the supply of firecrackers, but our peace is not thereby promoted. The ingenious youth of the city adopt noisy pistols in their place. . . .

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

18 posted on 07/04/2017 6:55:21 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Continued from July 4 (reply #18).

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19 posted on 07/05/2017 7:16:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Meanwhile, all was peaceful in the haute-bourgeois suburbs.


20 posted on 07/05/2017 9:13:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Golden Rule. Just that.)
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