I find it interesting that JD Powers used price to knock down the iPad and give a win to the Samsung tablets several years ago when the iPad had five stars in every category except price, beating handily the Samsung's ratings in those categories where those tablets got at most three stars, but granting the much cheaper Samsung five stars. Now, price is given a much lower weighting. Hmmmmmm.
You can call Surface what you want; tablet, notebook, thin/convertable laptop etc. It’s a more desirable machine than an iPad.
The iPad is stuck in the middle now; if you just want to browse/watch movies a $150 android tablet can do it as well. If you need a laptop replacement it can’t do it as well as a Surface.
It’s not an overpriced tweener piece of hardware at the moment. If it ran OS X instead of iOS it might be a different story.
The problem is...without the source for Win 10 you forfeit any and all trust in WTF is on the wire.
At least with Apple, you stand a chance with such standard admin tools like strace -p PID and others to see just WTF it’s doing...unless they have poked around honesty.
Either way, the users look to me like they DONTGAF.
I’m not quite sure why - I have both an MBP and a MS-based laptop with touch-screen. Prefer the MBP in terms of usability and portability.
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That depends on which version of the Surface you have. I have had the Surface 1 and 2, both definitely tablets but also full up computers. They were great. Now have the Surface book which will convert to tablet and tablet mode; even better. The keyboard on the Surface book is a full KB but can flip to give you the tablet mode which requires no “surface”, it’s a tablet.
My Ipad is mostly userd for web surfing. I hate Safari so much I won’t be buying another Ipad.
Oh no, the fags will revolt!
If you use a keyboard with the ipad you have the same problem ... duh
You don’t have to use the keyboard ... duh
Hmm. Surface 4 package at Costco is 999. I pads are within spitting distance of that.
Ironic that I was reading this headline on FR as I was finishing up re-installing Windows 10 on a box I use for cryptocurrency and gaming. It died due to a “BSOD” Win 10 OS crash with a “no boot” condition. It happened after a failed Win 10 update...beware the Win 10 update #KB4015438.
Microsoft’s own website customer’s rate the MS Surface at only 3.9 stars out of 5. . . with 166 five star ratings, 37 four star, 13 three star, 21 two star, and 50 one star. Look it up for yourself. . . here:
https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.5072641000
Hilarious! There’s no way this product can come up to the 97% plus customer satisfaction rating the Apple iPad enjoys when Microsoft cannot even publish better than a 58% five star rating on their own web site. . . and a 71% when counting the four stars as well.
That no way near justifies the JD Power numbers.
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to use the MS Surface really requires, well, a surface to place it on to use the keyboard cover.
Not true.
I lived without the keyboard cover from March to December of 2016. It has an on-screen keyboard in the user’s choice of three configurations. I like the keyboard. And if I need to take a screenshot in portrait mode, it flips back behind and out of the way.
For real, professional, tasks a laptop and a desktop are a must. It is impossible to type a 100 page term paper on a touch screen.
Side note: glad to see the competition. Because we consumers lose when there isn't competition. Also, I am not a big fan of MS phones and tablets. But their desktops and laptops (the OS and third party hardware) have Apple beat by a mile for the best value and broadest support.
Microsoft seems more profitable &
more creative without Steve Ballmer.
Also note that JD Powers is far from an “unbiased 3rd Party” - their automobile ratings that gut much touted by GM of late (for so-called “initial quality”) have been shown to be rather faulty and intentionally hinged towards particular makes.
That being said, it would appear that the market for “tablets” is indeed shifting to a more micro-notebook form-factor, so the fact that folks who buy the MS Surface would be happy with it is not such a surprise.
In my experience, my iPad has taken on about ½ of my work done previously on my MacBook Pro. If it ran a full OS, I would likely be able to essentially stop carrying my MBP at all. BUT - I’m not sure I want a tablet to fully supplant a “real” computer, if the files can be interchanged (I use Pages, Numbers, and Keynote a lot), then I’m cool with the current niche my iPad fills.
But I won’t lie - there are times that the Surface Pro seems like an attractive option (if only it ran MacOS!).