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Freedom Caucus drives dagger into heart of young Trump Presidency
FOXNEWS Opinion Section: Elizabeth Peek ^ | March 24, 2017 | Elizabeth Peek

Posted on 03/25/2017 9:05:20 AM PDT by ShivaFan

It is hard to overestimate the damage the Freedom Caucus has done to the fledgling presidency of Donald Trump, and to the country. By blocking the American Health Care Act of 2017, the conservative group has guaranteed that Americans will struggle forward under the burden of Obamacare. In the next few months insurers will announce their premium hikes for the coming year; chances are, given the continuing withdrawal of major companies from the marketplaces and the ongoing failure of the bill to attract enough young and healthy participants, the new rates will not be pretty. Last year premiums went up 25%; it’s likely the increases will be higher this year.

Republicans will own those higher rates. Their failure to repeal the financial underpinnings of Obamacare and start replacing that failing program with an approach that encourages competition and that embodies numerous other common sense reforms will mean that families hit by ever-higher costs will blame the GOP. Voters elected Donald Trump and a GOP Congress to get this job done – the number one promise of every Republican campaign since 2010...

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To: FreeReign
Not a belief; just a logical next step if and when the Democrats decide its worth fixing Obamacare (their view) while Republicans repeal and replace it. Single Payer is a logical state by state option. In return, the Democrats have to offer President Trump things like insurance across state lines, allowing each state to choose the healthcare model it wants (abortion not covered, etc.).

I think any more action on healthcare is dead until after the 2018 midterms, unless the polls really scare one side or another.
161 posted on 03/25/2017 12:38:26 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: ShivaFan

The Freedom Caucus and Paul better get behind tax cuts, defunding PP and the rest of the conservative agenda Trump is pushing or it deserves the scorn it will receive.


162 posted on 03/25/2017 12:40:38 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Artcore

Clearly the Freedom Caucus.

Freedom Caucus members main concern, did they spell the name correctly. Look at me!
“When the mouse laughs at the cat, there’s a hole nearby.”

“Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best”
Ancient white guy.


163 posted on 03/25/2017 12:45:21 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Go Trump!)
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To: be-baw

I hope not, it will just prove many of the folks that didn’t trust Trump because of his previous liberal positions were justified.


164 posted on 03/25/2017 12:49:15 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: ShivaFan
The most important result of this failure is that the GOP will be held responsible by the media and the public for whatever happens to healthcare from here on out. If the premiums jump as expected and the whole exchange fiasco collapses, it will be on the backs of the GOP, not the 'rats. The GOP is in charge. If they fail to do something, they will rightly be held responsible, not the democrats.

The final story will take some time, but this vote will likely have done great political harm to Trump's, and our, agenda. Thank who you want-- Ryan, the freedom caucus, whoever-- the fact is, this no vote was a bad mistake all the way around.

165 posted on 03/25/2017 12:54:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: TTFX

Because under Rand’s plan if you don’t buy, you don’t have any insurance, all you got (hopefully) is a HSA - cash on the barrel head, please. He doesn’t show any options outside of medic-aid.

Under the Ryan plan, you could still buy insurance while you’re laying on the gurney bleeding - if you can find a company to cover you on the spot. But you will have to chip into the kitty. Or, you’re perfectly free self-insure and pay cash up front and not apply. But the option is there.


166 posted on 03/25/2017 12:58:52 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: BillyBoy

Saving the republic happens incrementally, unless of course we have a World War III.

The bill wasn’t perfect, very far from it. However, it repealed the employer mandate to provide insurance and the personal mandate to buy it. That alone, while not perfect, is less governmental intrusion. And that is more free will for the people, by definition.

It was an incremental improvement.

and no, I don’t believe “my President right or wrong”. More like : my President, a little bit less wrong than the other guy.

If I had my way, we’d be a strictly libertarian government.

But I’m a realist...

and that’s my 2 cents...


167 posted on 03/25/2017 1:00:48 PM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: tennmountainman
How many times in the past few years did the Republicans vote for a simple repeal? Yet, you think it can't be done.

That was GOP grandstanding when it didn’t matter. You know that, as well as anybody else. If they had the VOTES, when it mattered they would have done it.

You're missing the point. If they grandstand for their constituents when it doesn't matter, then it means that their constituents want a simple repeal.

168 posted on 03/25/2017 1:04:44 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I cannot give you an answer other than they did not have the votes
when it mattered most. Or Ryan chose not to offer it up for another vote.

The fact is, it failed and we still have Full Blown Obamacare.


169 posted on 03/25/2017 1:09:38 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: taxcontrol

So what is the plan for Obamacare now?


170 posted on 03/25/2017 1:55:27 PM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Az Joe

it’s now Conservacare


171 posted on 03/25/2017 1:56:21 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (the long night is over)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

And no blame for Ryan? Sorry, but your argument is beyond lame!

The fact is, you are giving approval for Obamacare 2.0. Unfreaking believable!


172 posted on 03/25/2017 1:56:32 PM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: taxcontrol

They cant because Paul RINO will block it!!


173 posted on 03/25/2017 2:02:20 PM PDT by WENDLE (WE DEFEATED RINOCARE! NOW WE WANT FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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To: Artcore

“The fact is, you are giving approval for Obamacare 2.0. Unfreaking believable!”

So 0bamacare 1 is best?

N.B.:Ideologues are not limited to the left.
And paid partisans come from all directions.


174 posted on 03/25/2017 2:22:01 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Go Trump!)
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To: Artcore

“This should have died in the senate or in conference not in the Republican house if it was to die.”

No disrespect intended (really, no snark here), but...
Isn’t the Senate also “the Republican Senate”?
How does having a Republican Senate fail to pass something (leaving aside for the moment the question of whether that “something” is good or bad) look better to the hoi polloi than having the Republican House fail to pass it?
As I said, this is not snark — I’m really trying to see your point here!
Would much appreciate clarification, if you felt so inclined.
Cheers


175 posted on 03/25/2017 2:30:32 PM PDT by teech (You can read this: thank your teachers. You're FREE to read this: thank our Veterans.)
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To: microgood
Ryan "did what he did" because he is owned lock, stock and barrel by the Chamber of Commerce.

If he really wanted to, he could have easily reintroduced the 2015 repeal bill. Although that bill doesn't fully repeal Obamacare either, it goes much further than the toilet sandwich Ryan put up yesterday. And it had consensus from both the RINOs and House conservatives.

People keep screaming that we don't have the votes to repeal Obamacare, but the half-dozen times a repeal bill was sent to the Senate we didn't have the votes either thanks to Reid and Obama.

Also, an important thing about getting a full repeal bill is that liberal judges will continue to cite Obamacare and parts of Ryan's bill would have been blocked by leftist activists and judges. Repealing Obamacare wipes Obamacare off the law and statutes completely.

176 posted on 03/25/2017 4:47:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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To: joesbucks

I never thought I’d see the day when principled conservatives would be derided for being, well, principled conservatives.


And I never thought I’d see the day when “principled conservatives” stood with Nancy Pelosi but that just happened. Strange times we live in.


177 posted on 03/25/2017 9:33:30 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Wonder Warthog

Garbage. The only “owners” of the problem are Obama and the Democrats. Once the negative factors of the ORIGINAL PROGRAM kick in, the pressure to replace will only increase, and make it easier to pass better legislation. Trump did exactly the right thing.


The buck stops where? The kenyan is long gone. Nobody is going to buy that deflection except do-nothing “principled conservatives”.


178 posted on 03/25/2017 9:35:06 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: taxcontrol

Keeping ACA in place is what the Trump/Ryan bill would have done AND provided cover for the socialist takeover of 1 sixth of the US economy.


LOL. Keeping ACA in place is EXACTLY what the do-nothing “freedom caucus” just did. Outstanding.


179 posted on 03/25/2017 9:38:27 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

I guess you could make that extrapolation but clearly their stand was for different reasons.


180 posted on 03/25/2017 10:08:33 PM PDT by joesbucks
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