Posted on 03/18/2017 5:57:37 AM PDT by C19fan
Disney's live-action adaptation of the classic animated musical could clear $60 million on Friday alone on its way to landing one of the top 10 openings of all time, not accounting for inflation.
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They were for kids, you don’t need to warn adults to stop sucking their thumbs and don’t go in the forest. These are lessons for CHILDREN, period.
But Snow White was NOT killed in the movie, she went to sleep. That’s the saccharine, no death, just a sleep that can only be broken by “love’s first kiss”. As for Cinderella, locked in her room is just a punishment kids face all the time. As for Sleeping Beauty again in the movie it’s not murder, it’s sleeping, woken again by “love’s kiss”. Saccharine, you’re seeing the original story THROUGH the layers of crap Disney put in there. I’m seeing the crap.
Yes there is more saccharine crap out there. Which doesn’t make Disney not saccharine crap. Just because elephant poo is worse than dog poo doesn’t mean dog poo ain’t poo. Disney’s dog poo. Barney is elephant.
Same with other adaptations being more different. Except Naked Lunch, that’s not actually an adaptation, the movie is supposed to the writing of the book, only withing the world of the book, it’s very meta and supposed to be vastly different.
Actually, there ARE adults who suck their thumbs. Just ask King John of Britain.
As far as Snow White, let me remind you that in the Grimm fairy tale, she ALSO wasn’t killed, just put to sleep via the poisoned apple. Same deal with Sleeping Beauty. Heck, Disney’s Sleeping Beauty if anything ADDED the bit about Maleficent actually trying to kill Aurora initially, which was NEVER present in the original story (originally, the fairy cursed her to go to sleep, THAT’S IT, and unlike in the Disney version, the fairy made NO effort to ensure the curse went on unabated, including abducting the prince, trying to imprison him until he was a very old man, and even attempting to murder him via her various infernal powers. That was ALL Disney.).
And if you want a world where kids are too scared to even go outside, be shut ins, paranoid that everything’s bad and out to get them to the extent that they cannot even COMPREHEND that someone trying to help IS in fact trying to help, be my guest. Speaking as someone who HAS had to live through that constantly for most of my life, I can tell you it is extremely unpleasant, constantly being afraid that, regardless of percentages, EVERYTHING would go wrong, to the extent that you’re completely unwilling to even take any risks out of fear of failure. It’s actually one of the reasons I hate the route Disney’s taking with villains by making them plot twist villains. And for the record, I actually know a friend who’s more scared of Disney movies than scary movies, justifying it by saying “at least with horror flicks, you know what you’re getting.”
Not enough to get a folk tale, especially not a folk tale where Die Scherer is cutting off the thumbs of KIDS.
These tales didn’t make kids afraid to go outside, it made them aware that being outside had risks. Because that’s life, there are risks. Plenty of bad people pretend to be trying to help, “your mom sent me” is still one of the most popular lines kidnappers use. That’s why we STILL teach “stranger danger”, it’s just Disney that avoids it. We’re still teaching kids all the same lessons the fairy tales used to, we’re just not doing it with fairy tales anymore because Disney has taken those lessons out of them.
You know what also teaches “stranger danger”? Metal Gear Solid. Actually, it does even WORSE than that, it teaches that even a close friend of you may have a desire to backstab you. Raiders of the Lost Ark was already enough to leave me deathly terrified of God, serving him out of sheer terror rather than love, and the evening news reporting disaster and crime after disaster and crime left me too afraid of the world anyways. I already HAVE serious problems being in the outside world since I was a kid because of that, and I’m pretty sure non-Disney fairy tales would have done it as well (heck, when my dad attempted to read Harry Potter, I actually got so scared of it that I couldn’t even touch anything relating to it until sixth grade, and the reason I got scared was because of the infamous “magic word” scene in the second book where Uncle Vernon blew his lid off when Harry was trying to snarkily remind Dudley that he should say please.). You may think that may actually get kids to realize risks. I agree, but only in the sense that they’d realize the risks to such an extent that they’d be too afraid to go outside. I’d know because I WAS that kid.
And BTW, you should look at Marquis de Sade’s works, they probably would have been geared towards kids (after all, he did seek to corrupt people, especially the youth).
Most people did not even know about it nor even noticed it in the movie.
The movie will easily make over $1.2 billion worldwide, probably a top ten grossing movie of all time both domestically and foreign.
Disney will make a fortune and I am not including money from DVD sales, VOD, etc.
The movie cost $160 million to make and let's guess $100 million to promote worldwide. At 1.2 billion gross, Disney will get about half of that, which is $600 million dollars and that does not include DVD and VOD.
There is a reason why most young people leave the small hometown when they grow up. They want opportunity, a chance to grow and expand their world and a job. I can't even begin to tell you how many people I have talked to from small towns couldn't wait to leave their small towns. There is nothing there for them.
Most of my relatives live in small towns and I do like them, but it is just the way it is.
Well, at the end of the weekend, 60% were females and 40% males.
I think you nailed it.
This flick should wind up putting untold MILLIONS into the coffers of the democrat party...thanks, America!
That’s true with anything Hollywood related. All movies made almost $300 million across the Fruited Plain this weekend. It’s not just Beauty.
It's kids and their parents. I guess it's possible that some people in their 20s are seeing it, and a lot of adults will probably have seen it on cable or DVD before too long, but I don't suppose many over 30s of whatever sort are lining up in theaters to see this. Not unless they are very, very lonely.
You just plain take this all way too personally. So what if Disney movies suck? So what if you like them? Really, get your head on straight, they’re just movies, get the hell over it already. Sorry you were a fraidy cat kid, but really, get the hell over that too, you’re an adult now.
If they stank, why make money? And besides, there’s zero point in showing kids Snow White being planned to be used as a literal trophy wife or an ogre prince actually raping Sleeping Beauty to wake her up, especially when they serve absolutely NO life lessons at all and is just pointless cruelty for the sake of showing the world as an irredeemably cruel place. Even if you might have a point with that fairy tale about the guy who cuts thumbs off of kids who suck on them, there’s literally NO point behind the bit regarding Aurora and Snow White’s treatment in the Grimm fairy tales, period. In fact, Rape is actually one of the worst evils and never to be encouraged, period, and the Grimm versions sound closer to encouragement rather than just a warning. Now, Little Red Riding Hood by Charles Perrault DID act as an actual warning on rape.
Bad things make money all the time. Appealing to the lowest common denominator is a path to profit if not to pride.
There’s plenty of point: THAT’S THE FREAKING STORY.
Not all bad things make money. Heck, BMX-XXX if anything LOST money, and that WAS a bad thing, due to essentially being a smut game.
As far as there being plenty of point due to it being the story, yeah, and constant sexual immorality and perversion, even pain and suffering was also the story of 120 Nights of Sodom by the Marquis de Sade, yet you’d be out of your mind to even use that as literature for even your teenaged offspring, let alone the age group fairy tales appeal to.
And there’s absolutely no moral or social lesson regarding an ogre prince waking up Sleeping Beauty by raping her and getting her pregnant, nor is there any moral lesson to a prince waking Snow White by accident by arranging for her to be delivered to his castle as a literal trophy wife. Having as much “moral point” to the story as most of Sade’s works. Red Riding Hood at least had a moral lesson with its horrific elements regarding avoiding “wolves” as in sexual predators.
It’s true, not all bad things make money, but neither do all good things. And in general bad things, especially things that are bad because they follow the monotonous formula American audiences seem to crave, make more money than good things, especially good things that challenge the audience to think.
You’ve got a real hangup on smutty things. This isn’t about smut, this is about the story. It’s a simple piece of math: if you’re going to tell the story, tell the damn story, if you’re not don’t. I fine example of this is I Robot, the Will Smith vehicle, which if you ignore the fact that they named it after one of the finest collections of short stories by one of America’s most intellectual SF authors isn’t actually a bad movie, it’s brain dead action but it’s pretty fun. Except they DID name it after that fine collection, and the story has only the slightest resemblance to one of the stories in that collection, and that makes the movie suck.
There very much are moral and social lessons regarding an ogre prince raping Sleeping Beauty, actually the lesson comes BEFORE the rape in how pointless rude behavior setup their daughter for those troubles. You need to get over your Sade obsession. You’ve got a lot to get over. I suggest you get over this thread first. No really, I’m done. You can have the last word if you want, I ain’t reading it, although given how repetitive you are I feel like I already have. Good luck.
The fact that folks like you (like a lot of people) see this as subtle and unnoticeable only goes to prove how inured and desensitized we have become to the “gay” world view injected into every discussion. Twenty-five years ago this wouldn’t have been the case.
And don’t put it past children to “get it.” They are more perceptive than you give them credit for.
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