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To: otness_e

It’s true, not all bad things make money, but neither do all good things. And in general bad things, especially things that are bad because they follow the monotonous formula American audiences seem to crave, make more money than good things, especially good things that challenge the audience to think.

You’ve got a real hangup on smutty things. This isn’t about smut, this is about the story. It’s a simple piece of math: if you’re going to tell the story, tell the damn story, if you’re not don’t. I fine example of this is I Robot, the Will Smith vehicle, which if you ignore the fact that they named it after one of the finest collections of short stories by one of America’s most intellectual SF authors isn’t actually a bad movie, it’s brain dead action but it’s pretty fun. Except they DID name it after that fine collection, and the story has only the slightest resemblance to one of the stories in that collection, and that makes the movie suck.

There very much are moral and social lessons regarding an ogre prince raping Sleeping Beauty, actually the lesson comes BEFORE the rape in how pointless rude behavior setup their daughter for those troubles. You need to get over your Sade obsession. You’ve got a lot to get over. I suggest you get over this thread first. No really, I’m done. You can have the last word if you want, I ain’t reading it, although given how repetitive you are I feel like I already have. Good luck.


98 posted on 03/20/2017 10:10:43 AM PDT by discostu (There are times when all the world's asleep, the questions run too deep, for such a simple man.)
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To: discostu

The sleeping spell would have been enough, anyways.

And just for the record, the Brothers Grimm weren’t the original authors of the tale (if anything, Perrault was, and there was no rape at all in that version. In Perrault’s version, the prince was just lucky enough to find the princess when the spell wore off). So technically, the Brothers Grimm if anything utterly bastardized (pardon the language) the original fairy tale by making it a lot more depraved. And the Disney version was if anything based on the Perrault versions, NOT the Grimm versions, and Perrault tends to keep things family friendly for the most part. Snow White was, however, originally written by the Brothers Grimm, and my point still stands there, especially when there’s no real reason to have Snow White nearly used as a literal trophy wife. What moral lesson does THAT teach anyways?

Let me ask you something as a closing, since we’ve gotten that out of the way. Let’s ignore the bit about changing dark stories into “saccharine crap.” What would you feel if you changed stories that originally WERE saccharine and made them into cynical nihilistic works that were just downright depressing and left no real message besides “the world is crap”? If I were you, I’d hate it just as much. And quite frankly, that means you should hate the Brothers Grimm for ruining that in the opposite direction just as much as you hate Disney for ruining them by making them saccharine, because that’s being consistent and non-hypocritical.


101 posted on 03/20/2017 1:53:35 PM PDT by otness_e
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