A Marine explains which state would win if the US declared war on itself

Business Insider ^ | 2/13/2017 | Jon Davis

[Claud]

California lacks sufficient water.

Good point. Shut off the Colorado River supply and there goes Southern CA.

[Jim Noble]

I lived south of Syracuse and Utica for a few years, and I certainly meant no disrespect to NY’s country people. I’ve hiked the Catskills and Adirondacks, and know the country well.

But as a strategic, military asset capable of self-sufficiency in the top 3 states out of 50? Run by Andrew Cuomo and Bill DeBlasio?

Be serious.

[PeterPrinciple]

A Texas Marine stationed in California, would not fight for California. A soldier in New York would not fight against their home in Virginia and a sailor in Houston would not fight against their home state of Florida. The warriors returned to their home states and the states had to reconsider that when they measured troop strength of their new nations. Ultimately, they measured troop strength by how much of the population would return home.

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Do people have that much loyalty to their state anymore? Family is scattered over many states now.

[Night Hides Not]

Thanks! The disagreement I have with the premise of the column revolves around the transient nature of the American population. For example, I was born in Oregon, spent most of my years through HS in CA, went to college in eastern WA, and the military took me to Texas.

I have lived all but 4 of my last 41 years in Texas, the other four were in Germany. I have no loyalties to any other state.

To think that so many people would return to their "home states" is truly fiction.

[napscoordinator]

Since we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan over New York City, I would imagine that all the states would in the end get together and protect all 50 states.

[MayflowerMadam]

“Here, they light their grilles with any number of triggering things”

Where is “here” for you?

[phormer phrog phlyer]

Food would be challenging for WV, lots of coal and gas for energy, not much flat land for farming. The topography would make it very difficult for an invading force, mountains with narrow valleys.

[M Kehoe]

Thanks.

5.56mm

[Jean2]

Probably the same with Hawaii.

[keats5]

I don’t think any war within the states will have much to do with state lines.

[alternatives?]

There would be a war within many states before alliances could be formed. In many cases it would be rural versus the cities with suburbs being the battleground. In Illinois, for example, it would be Chicago and east St Louis versus rest of state. Not sure either city could survive.

I am thinking the two narrow strip of coasts and I don’t think they have the wherewithal to fight.

[RegulatorCountry]

North Carolina

[pfflier]

Mexico would exploit the whole southwest and west in this scenario. They are doing it already.

[SanchoP]

In a war the entire Texas Gulf coast would be ablaze. The refineries would be strategic target numero uno.

[LouAvul]

I always considered any contemporary “civil war” as, not state against state but, Patriots against liberal scum. No doubt which would win.

[Sapwolf]

Cool!

I’d team up with Raul and travel from Vegas to Texas and then work on the teams to convince OK, LA, AR, NM, KA to join the new Texas Republic.

LOL! In times of trouble we all need....ALLIES.

Somebody make a board game in this and then make a phone app out of it.

[atc23]

Everyone mistakes California with San Diego, Los Angeles and Frisco - liberalism here in the cities is a mile wide and an inch deep. It will take Trumpism to restore the Golden State.

[tcrlaf]

“He totally forgot that AZ has AMARK the third largest air force in the world. We get air superiority right out of the gate.”

An airplane without gas or an experienced pilot is pretty worthless.
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Trade that aircraft to the Texas Republic, however, and things start looking up.

[Pollster1]

Do people have that much loyalty to their state anymore? Family is scattered over many states now.

Some states, yes. Others no. The states that seem to have relatively little identity (my experience, and I may not have been in the right spots) include CA, MD, FL, IL. States with a lot of identity include Alaska, Hawaii, KY, TN, VA (away from DC), WY, and of course TX. Still, I suspect rural Appalachia would form a natural affinity group that would ignore the urban welfare class from their own states; with the same in the rural West of CA, OR, WA, ID, MT, WY, and (perhaps) UT; and the same for the rural Sou.

[Hot Tabasco]

California and New York wouldn't figure into the equation. They're filled with too many left wing cowards that would turn on each other in self preservation.

Kinda like Alexandria in TWD. While they had a wall and the niceties in a post apocalyptic world, they had no idea on how to defend themselves or the will to do so.