Posted on 02/08/2017 7:54:15 AM PST by Olog-hai
Cats would keep their claws under a bill that would make New Jersey the first state to prohibit declawing.
The measure, which cleared the lower house of the Legislature last month, bans onychectomies and flexor tendonectomies on a cat or any animal unless a veterinarian deems them medically necessary. A vote on the measure was delayed in a state Senate committee Monday, and its not clear when it will move forward.
The practice, often undertaken to prevent cats from shredding furniture or injuring humans or other pets, is already banned in several California cities and in nearly 20 countries.
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I see a law of unintended consequences. Look for kitties that have damaged furniture to end up turned loose or euthanized.
HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA! I’m guessing the percentage of cats who would allow that, to be pretty slim.
I wonder if the nerve endings are fully developed? As a nurse, I worked in the newborn nursery. The baby boys cried when they were circumcised, but as soon as we picked them up, they immediately stopped crying. Didn’t seem to get wound up when they peed on the newly cut areas, either. My two boys never seemed to have any pain from their circumcisions while they were healing, either. Don’t recall my cat limping around, crying. I know if I cut my nail down below the quick, it hurts like crazy for a day or two, but cats don’t seem to mind.
Yep.
I disagree with your assessment. We have five cats, four of which have been declawed. The three youngest were declawed somehwere between 8 and 12 weeks. They suffered no pain whatsoever. They were romping around playing rough with each other an hour after the procedure. Their mother, who was between 9 months to a year old, was declawed at the same time. She did have more pain and discomfort, you could clearly see her walking gingerly for a week.
The declawed cats still catch mice and gophers, climb trees and beat the snot out of our neighbor’s clawed cats. That might be because they’re between 18 and 20 pounds—they’re BIG cats.
Our oldest cat still has his claws, we use “Soft Paws”, which are vinyl caps we glue over his trimmed claws. Those need to be replaced periodically, so we still find scratches on our leather furniture.
Our current beast, Fuzz Butt, came to us that way. The Pet Smart stores around here have pet adoption days in conjunction with rescue organizations that require the adopter to sign a "no de-clawing" agreement. Before picking out this one, we had already decided we weren't above lying about that if needed. Humane de-clawing is much gentler than killing them, in my not-so-humble opinion.
Cats primary defense is climbing and that ability is impaired by declawing. Next defense is too grip the adversary with front claws while ripping them with back claws. With no front claws they cannot grip.
The lifespan of a declawed cat is roughly half that of one not declawed if cat is allowed outside.
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Definitely not !!!!
Incredibly cruel.
What id we cut your fingers off?
If you don’t want a real cat, just don’t get one. Buy a stuffed toy.
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Claws are for hunting, and for defense.
Your cat would be defenseless out “in the wild”. He would still not be able to hunt effectively for food, if the need arose.
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Wow, a law against cruelty is silly?
Cats need all of their claws; that’s why Yehova designed them that way. (and if you’re an evoloooshunist, the argument is even stronger)
No, it's silly because the shelters are already overrun with cats. If you pass this law it will prevent a lot of people from getting a cat, because they don't want all their furniture torn up.
I have about 20 barn cats outside with claws, but my 2 house cats are declawed.
These 2 hung out on the porch waiting for someone to open the door so they could run inside. They finally won and I let them stay. However, I was not about to let them destroy all my furniture. I am sure some cats can be trained to use a scratching post, but by the time they are trained your furniture is trash.
If that makes me cruel, so be it.
I also burn the horns off my goats too, so that makes me a serial offender.
I’m back to comment again...
I have 2 cats at home (used to have 3 until 3 years ago).
I also have a 1 1/2 year-old dog, not big, about 11.5 pounds.
That dog was/is abusive. He used to jump on both cats, playfully, but abusively at the same time.
The bigger cat (about 15-16 pounds) is a pushover, and the smaller dog is constantly on him, and the dog never seems to learn to stop, no matter what we do.
The smaller cat (about 9.5 lbs), will not take shiite from anybody, not even us. We’ve learned to respect his space. The dog used to jump on that little cat in the beginning, and that little cat let the doggie have it when he scratched his ear and neck, and since then, our doggie won’t get near that little cat, except perhaps to sniff his rear end once in a while, but our doggie respects that little cat and will mostly just walk past him every time they’re near each other. The big cat (Rocky) has never learned how to earn our dog’s respect, though we keep hoping he’ll get “Nugget” to show some respect; that cat can destroy our dog easily, if he so wished. Our little cat is very fierce, and nobody gets close to him, unless he takes a liking to you.
So, again, the claws came in handy as a defensive weapon, and has gained our little cat (Dusty) some respect as a defensive weapon.
I’m over it already. It’s cruel to do. But I didn’t say I wanted a law. I think you misunderstood me. I’m about freedom. Cows probably think it’s cruel of us to milk them and eat them. I’m ok with that as well.
I would never declaw my indoor cat. She has destroyed nothing here. Last house we rented had some kitchen counter chairs with wicker seats. The two cats trashed them (by scratching and pulling the straw out) and I had to buy new for the owners. I choose no wicker or luxe drapery here, and the cat has stuff to scratch on. That’s how I personally handle this issue.
“Yehove” also designed cats with gonads. So we shouldn’t have them removed?
“...cannot grip...” Tell that to the dead mice, vols and birds our declawed Sammy has caught. Only two of our declawed cats go out, and at that they’re not out very long. They don’t go more than 100 feet from our property. Granted, we prefer they don’t go out. We don’t let the clawed cat out at all because he’s too friendly and will wander far from the house looking for new friends.
Declawing them means cutting parts of their toes off. Would you like parts of your toes cut off? They can’t stretch, climb or exercise properly.
People take animal cruelty very light. It’s sickening.
Amen.
Declawing them means cutting parts of their toes off. Would you like parts of your toes cut off? They cant stretch, climb or exercise properly.
People take animal cruelty very light. Its sickening.
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I assume you must be a vegan. If your not, you can can get off your high horse.
I can train kids just fine. When they're small, they're still smart enough to know that they don't know everything ...
From the get-go, my kitties have all known that they were infinitely superior to me and that I had nothing to teach them...
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