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Is tipping racist? Restaurateur says customers SHOULDN'T leave cash for waiters because it 'harks it
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Posted on 01/19/2017 6:01:07 AM PST by RummyChick

The owner of a popular burger chain said he will stop customers from tipping his staff because the practice has a 'racist' history. Danner Meyer, the CEO of Shake Shack, revealed that tipping customers stems from the American Civil War when the government accepted a petition to allow restaurants not to pay its staff. To get around new slavery laws, customers were advised to leave a small payment for servers so that no-one could argue that they were enslaved. Most waiting staff at the time were African-American, Meyer said.

Shake Shack is one of the most popular burger chains in the US, and is fast becoming a hit in the UK as well with five restaurants in London and one in Cardiff. In the US, it's accepted that customers should tip up to 20 per cent for every meal - but Meyer points out that in other cultures, it's very different.

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To: RummyChick
It's my choice if I want to tip or not.
I tip because I know most waiters are barely scraping by, at least at the non-luxury establishments we go to.
If they treat us well, we treat them well. A very simple rule.

41 posted on 01/19/2017 6:35:29 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: RummyChick

Sh1t shack is what they used to call outhouses.


42 posted on 01/19/2017 6:40:49 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Gaffer

Meyer is from St. Louis, but ran a number of very successful, very high end restaurants in New York. Union Square Cafe, Gramercy Tavern, Tabla a bunch of others, all wildly successful.

Shake Shack is his first mass-market venture, and because of the price point he’s putting them in wealthy, hipsterish towns where people don’t mind overpaying for things for the sake of being trendy. He is a self made billionaire in the restaurant trade though, which is not something a simpleton can do.


43 posted on 01/19/2017 6:40:57 AM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on

Even with all the adulation, the proof is in the burger, of which I’ve never seen, heard of or tasted.

There are probably quite a few other venues of which I’ve heard that are equally good. I don’t really care, actually.


44 posted on 01/19/2017 6:42:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: RummyChick

I don’t know if Danny is or isn’t a leftist. What I do know is that he has a very sound management philosophy, with expectations of excellence for his staff, and real consequences if they do not meet those expectations. Y’all should read his book, “Setting the Table”. Here’s the link to it on Amazon: http://amzn.to/2k7fKni


45 posted on 01/19/2017 6:52:15 AM PST by JimSp
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To: JimSp

(Oh, he’s definitely a massive Leftist!)


46 posted on 01/19/2017 6:55:55 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Gaffer

I’ve never had one either. Or the shake, which I think was really the original idea, basically that there were fewer and fewer places where you could expect to get a real milkshake.


47 posted on 01/19/2017 6:57:53 AM PST by babble-on
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To: RummyChick
"...tipping customers stems from the American Civil War when the government accepted a petition to allow restaurants not to pay its staff." I am sure that human nature being what it is, 'tipping' is something that originated from the time of cave dwelling. Want something done? Want it done properly? Want it done promptly? Pony up!!
48 posted on 01/19/2017 6:59:10 AM PST by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: RummyChick
Tipping started in our country right after the Civil War,' said Meyer.

when did slavery end ?
49 posted on 01/19/2017 7:03:58 AM PST by stylin19a (Hey obamas-it's Ray Charles time - "Hit the Road Jack"...you know the rest)
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To: RummyChick

I’m sticking with the tipping policy issued by Misty, my favorite (adult) dancer down at the local lounge...

“No tip, no ti#.”


50 posted on 01/19/2017 7:09:09 AM PST by moovova
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To: RummyChick

Another culture denier/revisionist/anti-American opens his pie hole.


51 posted on 01/19/2017 7:09:33 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I thank God, Broom Hillary was stopped. Now, moving on, I pray for Trump.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Talk to any waiter or waitress. They will tell you which ethnic group is the worst tippers.

My daughter worked her way through college as a waitress. You already know the answer to that question.

As a result of her experience, I usually tip 20%-25% for good service, less if adequate.

Bad service? 15%, and the establishment never sees me again (though I'll give 'em a second chance to redeem themselves). However, I can't recall the last place like that, as I don't go out that much and there are only a few places I frequent.

52 posted on 01/19/2017 7:21:05 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: RummyChick

53 posted on 01/19/2017 7:25:24 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: RummyChick

Sounds like a guerilla marketing campaign to me.


54 posted on 01/19/2017 8:02:32 AM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: RummyChick
anyone know if this is true?

Not even remotely. The idea of paying a gratuity for service originated in Europe at least 500 years ago. Even the etymology of the word "tip" predates the Civil War by a century and a half.

55 posted on 01/19/2017 8:23:23 AM PST by RansomOttawa
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To: RummyChick
Going from memory, but I believe the owner of Shake Shack was a HUGE Hillary supporter, hosting private dinners with her for other mega millionaires in his Grammercy Park mansion.

He doesn't like to tip, apparently.

56 posted on 01/19/2017 8:27:24 AM PST by dead
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To: RummyChick

Tipping has nothing to do with slavery. It originated a long time ago as a bribe.

Basically you paid the person serving you up front to guarantee that you received good service, good seating, and the freshest food possible - especially meat because most of the meat served in what passed for restaurants before refrigeration was in some stage of rot.

This is why the French came up with all those wonderful sauces - to hide the taste of the rancid meat.

So the “server” - who was not paid directly by the restaurant - would take your money, get you a place to sit, cut a deal with the kitchen, pay for your food, and pocket the difference. The best “servers” could make very good money doing this as they developed good relationships with the kitchen by “tipping” them as well...

It was much much later on in the game that “servers” became employees and tipping became something you did *after* the meal to add a personal thanks to your server. And even still, there are some places in the world where leaving a tip is considered an insult.

For instance - try tipping a “flight attendant” and see what happens, LOL


57 posted on 01/19/2017 8:38:43 AM PST by DBG8489
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To: RummyChick

In France, the tip is usually included in your bill. Anything additional you my wish to leave is a plus, but the server is guaranteed a “tip” because it is included in the price...as is any tax. It is why in America servers are often “stiffed” because visiting Europeans do not have the habit of “tipping.” They assume the service is included in the bill.


58 posted on 01/19/2017 10:36:05 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Talk to any waiter or waitress. They will tell you which ethnic group is the worst tippers.


Yeah, even members of that same ‘ethnic group’ will tell you which ‘ethnic group’ are the worse tippers.


59 posted on 01/19/2017 11:34:14 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent
Talk to any waiter or waitress. They will tell you which ethnic group is the worst tippers.

"Canadians."

60 posted on 01/19/2017 11:35:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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