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The Walking Dead Discussion Thread: Season 7 Episode 5
N/A | November 20, 2016 | N/A

Posted on 11/20/2016 4:52:42 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction



TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: thewalkingdead; twd; walkingdead
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To: Vince Ferrer

Maybe so but there are thousands of planes just sitting there. I’d take my chances on finding that 5 or 10 percent still totally airworthy.

I’d at least get out of Virginia headed west or to an island that has a runway. Clear out the zombies and watch your sick neighbors so they don’t do what Harry Potter did at the prison.


21 posted on 11/20/2016 8:19:07 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend
An airplane would be mostly a one time use though. I am thinking about this more of what level of technology can they continue to have.

I would build a settlement near a railroad, like when they were in the prison, or go to the coast, and get some boats.

They could build horse drawn carts, and move easily along the railroad, and it would be much easier to maintain than the roads. They could spread their settlements along the railroad.

The auto roads will deteriorate quickly with no maintenance, and the first big ice storm or wind after the apocalypse will put so much debris on them they could never clear them again.

Boats would be easy as well. Spread settlements along the coast and trade. This show is kind of a new history of the colonial period of the United States. Just as colonists started at the coastline and moved inland, the survivors will have to do the same.

I used to want them to go to North Dakota or Minneapolis, because the zombies would be frozen and easily dispatched. But without electricity and modern infrastructure, modern people wouldn't have the knowledge to grow enough food in the summer to survive a winter in Minneapolis.

I definitely think about how to survive a zombie apocalypse too much, but that is the appeal of zombies.

22 posted on 11/20/2016 8:51:54 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: hattend; ConjunctionJunction
Maybe so but there are thousands of planes just sitting there. I’d take my chances on finding that 5 or 10 percent still totally airworthy.

Just don't take the planes that the other 90 or 95 percent of the would-be pilots take.

I’d at least get out of Virginia headed west or to an island that has a runway. Clear out the zombies and watch your sick neighbors so they don’t do what Harry Potter did at the prison.

This was all done before, in the 1951 sci-fi novel "Day of the Triffids" by John Wyndham. The safe island in the novel is the Isle of Wight. I think an island is a very natural candidate for a defensible area. So it is important that the TV characters never reach an island, or else the drama of the show would be permanently punctured.

23 posted on 11/20/2016 10:18:20 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Harpotoo
...."Another crappy episode,"....

The wife and I were just saying the same tonight. I'm already sick of the Saviors. The kid with one eye needs to stab a guy with a Mini Gun and then pick it up and wipe them out and we need another plot to emerge. Dad bowing down to Negan makes everyone sick and he will end up losing the chick with the sword. No one wants the weepers bowing down. He'd be better off dying as the red headed guy did, at least with a little honor. Let's move on people. Maybe find a cure or something and finish the show.

24 posted on 11/20/2016 10:32:21 PM PST by chuckles
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To: FreedomStar3028

I would refuse to call him by that nickname, particularly since he’s a gay.


25 posted on 11/20/2016 11:56:26 PM PST by Rastus (#NeverHillary #AlwaysTrump)
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To: Sivad

I agree with you that living like that is not something with which I would deal well.

Out in the sticks I understand having utilities out for a while. But go to the nearest city with more than 100,000 people. THAT is where the people will need “leadership.” That is where your bad guys will percolate.


26 posted on 11/21/2016 2:44:51 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: Mark

Mark.... you brat! I just got that song OUT of my head a few days ago! :)


27 posted on 11/21/2016 5:27:10 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Vermont Lt

I agree that a few weeks without power in an urban area
is going to effect crime but I’m sure it would take
somewhat longer to cause the kind of societal upheaval
depicted in TWD. The exception might be if the issue
was caused by some devastating event like a storm or
earthquake (or zombie outbreak?).


28 posted on 11/21/2016 6:26:51 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf.)
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To: Sivad

lol....

im thinking the dead walking might just throw a curve ball to cause some slight upset
OR
no unemployment benefits....

to be fair no unemployment benefit might be worse...


29 posted on 11/22/2016 3:41:08 AM PST by Irishguy
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Please, someone, anyone - cut Carl’s hair.


30 posted on 11/22/2016 3:46:29 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is public enemy #1)
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To: workerbee

Can’t argue with that. I work with at-risk teenaged boys
at a private residential treatment facility. On
occasion I will pull aside a more mature 14 yr old
and show him a high school yearbook. Typically the
freshman boys photos will depict baby faces with longer
hair while the senior photos show young men with
neatly trimmed and well groomed hair. I ask my boys
which group in the yearbook they think attracts the
most girls. Sometimes they get the hint.

In the case of TWD the Carl aspect is peculiar in that
the magazine depicts Carl as a little kid. The story
line is condensed into a relatively short period
of time. In the TV version actor Chandler Riggs grows
and matures with every new program season. Unless they
change actors (the Carl character) every new season we
will continually view a Carl on TV that grows away from
the magazine version of the character. Maybe the
producers are doing about the only thing they can to
limit the growth of the Carl character. That is to
keep his hair ridiculously long. If so, they should
give it up. Notice the Judith character. Because there
is little exposure they can keep changing the ‘actor’
in order to slow her growth. Rather strange when you
think about it.


31 posted on 11/22/2016 8:12:40 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf.)
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To: Harpotoo

Yup, predictable as hell and very boring. I wouldn’t follow Gregory into a free Dunkin donuts store.


32 posted on 11/22/2016 8:21:53 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Elections have consequences." Barack Obama)
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To: Sivad

Most people only have about 3 days of food in their pantry. And most grocery stores now operate using just in time (JIT) inventories, so it wouldn’t take long for stores to be emptied of food and other necessities.

And if the power goes out, that would affect a lot of people who are dependent on medication (insulin, for example), because there would no longer be a way to refrigerate or manufacture it. And once things start to get bad, people will stay home to take care of their own families - they won’t be working at nursing homes, etc. for very long.

“One Second After” by William Forstchen does a pretty good job of describing societal disintegration after an EMP attack. “Lights Out” by David Crawford is another good one.

TWD is a bit different in that they live in a world where the dead come back to “life”. And this is an alternate universe where they never had zombie movies or anything like that, so they had no idea what they were seeing or how to deal with it. I could see a lot of people going mad in this type of situation where you see your loved ones die and then come back as zombies.

I could see where it wouldn’t take long for some crazy dictators (like the Governor and Neegan) to take power.


33 posted on 11/22/2016 8:54:01 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Of course in the real world if the issue were just the
lack of power then there are institutions which can
take up some of the slack. Those include the military,
FEMA, Red Cross, National Guard, local fire and law
enforcement agencies. Like I have posted, if you throw
in a zombie outbreak, storm, earthquake, etc then you
put added stress on the first responders and you
have a different ballgame.

I am rather dubious about the rapid rise of Governor or
Negan types. Those with enough savvy and wits to survive
for a time don’t strike me as being prone to allow
themselves to become the slaves of mad Men. That would
come much later, if at all.

I am reminded of my WWII combat paratrooper dad and
other sources who told me that when Japanese soldiers
lost their leaders they were paralyzed and did not
know what to do. On the other hand when American
warriors lost their leadership there would be all sorts
of men fighting to see who assumes leadership. That
is because at some level we all know that thinking
for yourself is good thing.


34 posted on 11/22/2016 11:51:58 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

If you watched the Talking Dead you get to see a scene from next week’s episode. It was on the sea shore with two new characters and they find someone washed up on shore. Is that Tara? I forget what happened to her. If I remember correctly she left the prison with Glenn.


35 posted on 11/23/2016 4:15:42 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The episode ends with Jesus and Carl in the back of a truck headed towards the Savior’s camp.
I am trying to remember...
Have Carl and Jesus ever met before?
Do they know who each other are?


36 posted on 11/23/2016 1:59:53 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Yes, they met in season 6. Rick and Daryl ran into Jesus in a kind of Benny the Hill type of episode. They ended up capturing him and taking Jesus back to Alexandria. Jesus surprised Rick and Michonne in bed and told them “We need to talk”. In season 6 episode 11, Carl points a gun at Jesus’ head while they wait for Rick and Michonne to get dressed.


37 posted on 11/23/2016 4:10:07 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Thank you, seriously.
You have a much better memory of the details than me.
I’m more of a ‘big picture’ kind of guy.


38 posted on 11/23/2016 4:15:59 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I can remember certain things. But for what I can't remember, there's this Walking Dead Wiki:

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Paul_Rovia_(TV_Series)

39 posted on 11/23/2016 4:33:59 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Harpotoo

I haven’t watched since that awful first episode. However, I admit I’m taping and saving the subsequent episodes on the off chance that they do something to lure me in back in.

Maybe they should have figured out a good ending after last season ....


40 posted on 11/25/2016 4:14:08 PM PST by altura
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