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How a Canadian elocution 'expert' from the 1930s crafted the Mid-Atlantic accent
UK Daily Mail ^ | 10-28-2016 | Ashley Collman

Posted on 10/28/2016 12:18:38 PM PDT by MUDDOG

In the Golden Era of Hollywood, actors such as Cary Grant and Katharine Hepburn spoke with a strange form of English that placed them somewhere between America and Great Britain.

The so-called Mid-Atlantic accent actually wasn't an accent at all, but an affectation concocted by a Canadian elocutionist.

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: elocution; midatlanticaccent
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To: MUDDOG

No. The mid-Atlantic accent has totally fallen out of favor since the 60s. Most theater in NYC is now American vernacular and even the Brits are losing their beautiful received English and playing classical roles with highly regional accents.

From the examples given in this interesting thread, it appears that politicians and dynastic families are the only ones continuing to speak in this phony way!!! Except the Clintons, of course, who continues to speak in braying Chicago accents and Gomer Pyle patois.


41 posted on 10/28/2016 1:46:31 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: miss marmelstein

Wouldn’t make a hash of it! I can’t believe I made that mistake. Grrrr!


42 posted on 10/28/2016 1:48:05 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: MUDDOG

Dunno.
All I can say is I grew up in Hartford, and no one in Hartford speaks like Hepburn. She either made her way of speaking up herself, or she was taught/coached to speak the way she did.
Having said that, at least back then the actors had nice, clear diction, unlike now!!


43 posted on 10/28/2016 1:49:17 PM PDT by Radagast the Fool (At my signal, UNLEASH PALIN!!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Gomer Pyle patois.

LOL!

44 posted on 10/28/2016 1:49:47 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Radagast the Fool
no one in Hartford speaks like Hepburn

I would more expect to encounter it spoken by early 20th-century Boston Brahmins and New York aristocrats.

The article claims that it was an invented way of speaking by this speech expert Skinner, and Hepburn was taught to speak that way.

45 posted on 10/28/2016 1:56:51 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Hot Tabasco

Those Canadians, always coming up with ways to ruin our lives.


46 posted on 10/28/2016 2:03:03 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Radagast the Fool

Hepburn had a very famous actress and elocution teacher in Manhattan who taught her the mid-Atlantic accent. Unfortunately, all my biographies of actors are packed away and I can’t remember her name. She was very famous in her time and taught many actors.

Of course, accents and dialects change over the years but Hepburn’s accent is unique. Lovely, I think. Less successful on the occasion when Bette Davis (another Yankee) tried it in movies like “That Skeffington Woman.” Although I buy it in “Now, Voyager.” She dropped it in her greatest movies, “All About Eve” and “The Little Foxes.”


47 posted on 10/28/2016 2:22:20 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: MUDDOG

I’m originally from New Jersey and I say “wudder”, but we say work and jerk correctly.


48 posted on 10/28/2016 2:38:19 PM PDT by Just_Sue (I'm from Texas)
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To: Just_Sue

“Wudder.” I never noticed that before. Good one!

I think “water” is a good marker for different pronunciation groups.


49 posted on 10/28/2016 2:49:24 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG
Katharine Hepburn or close facsimile.
ping
50 posted on 10/28/2016 3:01:33 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

Never noticed it before, but now that you mention it, I see it.


51 posted on 10/28/2016 3:12:09 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: miss marmelstein

Hepburn grew up next to my grandmother in West Hartford CT.

Nice community, wealthy folks, but no one put on that accent.


52 posted on 10/28/2016 3:14:55 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: Chickensoup

Hepburn’s family was very progressive (for what that’s worth - fond of abortion and sterilization of blacks). A friend of mine was married into the family. By today’s standards, Hepburn lived pretty modestly. Compared to today’s stars, of course. A great actress.


53 posted on 10/28/2016 3:27:22 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: miss marmelstein

She lived well, my family had connections with her into the fifties, and she didn’t stint.


54 posted on 10/28/2016 3:31:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: MUDDOG
Totally phony accent which is most often heard in period epics and need to give the Elite a voice distinct from the plebes.

Served to mask horrendous regional accents as well. Poster child for this is this gentlemen:

New York born Jay Robinson, the Emperor Caligula in The Robe.

I'd also throw Lauren Bacall of the Bronx in there as well as East Harlem's Burt "I Was Never A Nice Guy" Lancaster.

55 posted on 10/28/2016 4:10:57 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oratam

I had to look him up. Interesting bio.


56 posted on 10/28/2016 4:20:25 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

I have long wondered about what I call “The 1930s Hollywood Accent”!


57 posted on 10/28/2016 5:51:12 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: YogicCowboy

That is a better name for it, since it doesn’t confuse it with an actual accent spoken by real people.

I’ve been fascinated by it ever since Thurston Howell III. I loved the way he talked.


58 posted on 10/28/2016 5:59:27 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Vaquero
Fugetaboutit, youse guys know nuttin about new yawk tawk.
Meet me at toity toid an' toid! ;)
Sad thing is it being replaced with black ghettoese. And amongst lily white suburban dopey kids
Whiggers. From what I've seen, most Black people aren't appreciative of their schtick at all.
59 posted on 10/28/2016 6:34:55 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: MUDDOG

But how about all those TV folks and East Coast elites who now have affected the British POSH accent?


60 posted on 10/28/2016 6:44:05 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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