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How a Canadian elocution 'expert' from the 1930s crafted the Mid-Atlantic accent
UK Daily Mail ^ | 10-28-2016 | Ashley Collman

Posted on 10/28/2016 12:18:38 PM PDT by MUDDOG

In the Golden Era of Hollywood, actors such as Cary Grant and Katharine Hepburn spoke with a strange form of English that placed them somewhere between America and Great Britain.

The so-called Mid-Atlantic accent actually wasn't an accent at all, but an affectation concocted by a Canadian elocutionist.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: elocution; midatlanticaccent
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To: fwdude

Cooper? You mean “Judy, Judy, Judy” Grant?


21 posted on 10/28/2016 12:50:55 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: dangus
Another very unique and charming accent is the one spoken in many parts of North Carolina. Check out Pastor Mark Creech's appeal for Trump to evangelicals if you get a chance. Wish I could speak like that.
22 posted on 10/28/2016 12:52:52 PM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: MUDDOG

Fugetaboutit, youse guys know nuttin about new yawk tawk.

Sad thing is it being replaced with black ghettoese. And amongst lily white suburban dopey kids
no less.


23 posted on 10/28/2016 12:53:28 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: dangus

Dan Ackroyd did his version of it as Louis Winthorpe III in “Trading Places.”


24 posted on 10/28/2016 12:58:53 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: MUDDOG

Cary Grant is a pretty poor example. He spoke with a near Cockney accent. Katherine Hepburn, indeed, spoke with the famed mid-Atlantic accent which means between England and America, not the region of NY/NJ/Delaware, etc.


25 posted on 10/28/2016 12:59:05 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: MUDDOG

I have noticed that some people from Virginia and Washington D.C. area say “woik” instead of “work”.


26 posted on 10/28/2016 1:03:37 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Vaquero

That’s the New York accent you immediately think of, but FDR’s old-line upper-class New York accent is what I’d think of as Mid-Atlantic.


27 posted on 10/28/2016 1:05:34 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: miss marmelstein

Good point. Cary Grant though did have a bit of a lockjaw way of speaking which is considered a Mid-Atlantic feature.


28 posted on 10/28/2016 1:07:28 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: forgotten man

“Woik” and “joik” could also be considered Brooklynese.

Another interesting word is “water.” I’ve noticed the English on the BBC say “wo(r)ter,” like Newt Gingrich says “Worshington.”

I say “wahter.”


29 posted on 10/28/2016 1:10:00 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Hot Tabasco

And you were thinking of Hillary, admit it!


30 posted on 10/28/2016 1:10:37 PM PDT by EarlT357
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To: MUDDOG

My grandmother and her sisters (Italian) were born in the 1890’s. Over the years, I heard many black people in D.C. of the same age. If you closed your eyes, you could not tell whether these people were black or white. The large migration of Southern blacks occurred from the thirties on.


31 posted on 10/28/2016 1:13:14 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: EarlT357
And you were thinking of Hillary, admit it!

OK, ok,.....I admit it!!

With that being said, does the guy who pulls the switch on an electrocution have to be a journeyman electrician and a member of a union?

32 posted on 10/28/2016 1:15:28 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If only Hillary had married OJ instead......)
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To: Arthur McGowan

That’s really interesting!

Maybe that also influenced Gore Vidal’s accent.


33 posted on 10/28/2016 1:15:55 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

Even Bill Buckley had that one.


34 posted on 10/28/2016 1:16:55 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Not mid-Atlantic as in Mid-Atlantic states, but middle of the Atlantic, in other words, good for posing as an elitist in either Britain or North America.

People go to pains to affect this accent. Without it, no Bilderberg and no Illuminati picnics.


35 posted on 10/28/2016 1:30:16 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Hillary Clinton -- motivational speaker, lives in a van down by the Potomac)
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To: MUDDOG

I disagree. He had a unique English accent that no one else had. It’s why he’s so imitated. I don’t think he ever took elocution lessons from some of the New York/LA frauds who “taught” in his era. They are lampooned well in the movie “Singing in the Rain.”


36 posted on 10/28/2016 1:31:01 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: loungitude
Whhhheeeeellll

Ronald Reagan?

Jack Benny also did a drawn-out "well," but the way you phoneticized it sounds like Ronald.

37 posted on 10/28/2016 1:32:24 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: dangus

There was a time in New York when Shakespeare and classic playwrights like Racine were constantly put on the Broadway stage. The mid-atlantic accent was developed as a way to get American actors away from their regional accents and into a more comfortable way of expressing classic poetry and prose. It sounds stagey now when we hear some actors from the old classic movies use it. Kate Hepburn certainly adopted it well. But she was so unique and brilliant it was unavoidable that she would make a hash of it.


38 posted on 10/28/2016 1:36:05 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Hot Tabasco

You are not the only one. I did too. Sort of made it more interesting.


39 posted on 10/28/2016 1:39:36 PM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: miss marmelstein

The Daily Mail article doesn’t directly say that Skinner actually taught Cary Grant (or even Katherine Hepburn). It implies that Skinner coached movie stars (”by the 1930s she was the go-to advisor for speech in Hollywood”), but doesn’t directly name any as her pupils.

The article does say though that thr accent was taught in drama schools.

I immediately wondered if you had encountered it there!


40 posted on 10/28/2016 1:39:52 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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