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To: Claud

The gay issue was lost 2 decades ago. You can either continue to fight against an issue you already lost or realize that economic issues control all other issues - including your ability to force social issues down other people’s throats. Milo may not be FR’s #1 ally but he’ll do more to get people under 35 to vote conservative or at least not vote liberal than this entire website will. You have to start to move people back towards conservatism before you even remotely have a chance on issues like gays.


24 posted on 09/14/2016 4:59:49 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
A culture of sexual vice --- featuring sodomy but also a total ensemble of heterosexual perversions as well, and barreling down the track of its own madcap, makeshift, miniscule morality --- destroys souls, families, cultures, nations, and civilizations.

But you? Are you conservative? What do you imagine you're conserving?

If you concede that the "gay issue" was "lost" and you can leave it at that, you understand very little, and you --- and everything around you --- will be swept away.

For this culture, horror. For souls, ultimate despair.

The soundtrack of that will feature a whole lot of "Allah Akbar."

83 posted on 09/14/2016 5:40:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: rb22982

I like Milo as a human being. I was watching appearances by him before this tour and have thought he is an eloquent spokesman for our side. Now that he’s started his tour he has ramped up the bitchy queen schtick, and I even completely understand why he’s doing it, because it plays well to a college audience and irritates the stuffing out of the left. And despite his obstinate depravity I think he may yet play a part in a Divine plan for bringing lost souls back to God in a way that you or I couldn’t. Who knows—maybe even an Oscar Wilde type conversion.

But he’s become foul-mouthed and disgusting and he needs to knock it off for the sake of the God he’s frequently on about.

As for the “gay” issue being lost. Bull. That’s cuck talk. The Emperor Nero married 2 men publicly in the glorious Golden Age of a pagan empire that was crushing Christians under its boot. That Empire tottered, fell, and eventually embraced the religion it despised.

After we hopefully win this election, do you think those of us who take Christianity and the Constitution seriously are going to just roll over for the libertinization of American conservatism? Just shut up and bake the cake? Sign the fake marriage certificates because we built a wall and got some tax breaks?

Don’t ever confuse our current support for Trump for social carte blanche.


100 posted on 09/14/2016 5:51:56 PM PDT by Claud
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To: rb22982

Good point.

I’ve made a couple of observations about Conservatives over the last 20 years.

1. We fight by the Marquess of Queensberry rules while the other side street-fights dirty.

2. The left is relentless. They take their time and work the ball down the field. They don’t care about anything but winning and they don’t care how big or small the win. They take it and push, push, push for the next goal.

Every play conservatives make is for a TD. Every. Single. One.

I’ve tried (in vain) to push for conservative support for small things - like a ban on all abortions over 20 weeks, unless the life of the mother is threatened, and - if the baby is viable -the drs must try to save the baby too.

Freepers ate me alive. “What? You’re all right with a 19 week old fetus being ripped apart?”

No. But we’ve got to start somewhere.

All-or-nothing. That’s the conservative way. We’re insisting that people ‘maintain low tones’ and mind their manners while Rome burns to the ground around them.

We play so that we can stand on our principles with our noses in the air and it all go to hell before we get our cuffs dirty.

The left has been at war while we pontificated.

It’s time that we put on our damn boots and WIN THE WAR.


To put it another way: We’ve self-imposed Rules of Engagement on ourselves while the terrorists slaughter us at every turn. We’ve got superior fire-power and we’re the better team, but we want war to be civilized.

The enemy doesn’t care.


167 posted on 09/14/2016 6:47:33 PM PDT by Marie (The vulgarians are at the gate! MAGA!)
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