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Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt
The Guardian ^ | Sept 12, 2016 | Paul Watson in Vancouver

Posted on 09/12/2016 3:38:51 PM PDT by Islander7

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To: miss marmelstein

A cruise thru’ the North West passage is about to finish!

A thrill for me on a cruise a few years ago was our stop in Oslo where I got to see,and board,the famous polar ship Fram.


41 posted on 09/12/2016 6:07:04 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

Fram:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fram


42 posted on 09/12/2016 6:10:44 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: miss marmelstein
Miss Marmelstein, of course you know that "The Last Place on Earth" was adapted from Roland Huntford's book of the same name.

For those new to the story, Huntford was one of the founders of pro-Amundsen, anti-Scott revisionism, his thesis is that:

1. Scott was a martinet and a glory seeker.

2. Scott could not lead men and caused constant friction among his team members.

3. Scott's organizational and logistical skills were completely not up to the task of a South Polar expedition.

Since then there have been several writers challenging Huntford, the most aggressive of which is Ranulph Fiennes who practically puts Scott back on a golden pedestal.

Personally I believe that (1) and (2) above are unjustified calumny, but (3) is absolutely 100 percent correct.

43 posted on 09/12/2016 6:14:28 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: kiryandil

“Rabbit is not a complete protein.”

the issue with an all-rabbit diet is fat starvation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation


44 posted on 09/12/2016 7:27:35 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Zirondelle

Not enough food.

Chippy, the ships carpenter, was very upset.

Someone recently wrote a book called Mrs Chippy’s Diary.

It doesn’t have a happy ending. :(


45 posted on 09/12/2016 7:46:35 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

We looked ‘HARD’ at Cabos. Decided they were too narrow and the head and shower were too small.

When we were looking, my wife went around the Eastern US looking at them. Then our Tashiba appeared in Ft Lauderdale.

We called, drove down and put money down about 2 days after it was listed.

Capt’n is VERY happy now.


46 posted on 09/12/2016 7:53:15 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: catnipman

What you said. :)


47 posted on 09/12/2016 9:33:19 PM PDT by kiryandil (Hillary Clinton is not sophisticated enough to understand the Bill of Rights, either.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Yes, of course. I have the book somewhere here although I read it many years ago. Paradoxically, the television show fostered a fascination with Scott that lasted for many years. I think it was Martin Shaw’s brilliant performance that hooked me. I still recommend it, despite its pro-Amundson stance for its good script and great acting and the fearful locations.

I am still looking for a Swedish film that starred Max Von Sydow as an arctic explorer of a very tragic expedition. The movie used preserved photographs that the dead left behind to great effect. I only saw it once in NYC and have long forgotten its name. Chilling and not because of the weather!


48 posted on 09/13/2016 3:23:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: 1066AD

Lucky you!!


49 posted on 09/13/2016 3:24:22 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks, Joe! I know you’re a bit of a mute so I’ll leave it at that.

This fellow died very tragically - went mad from lead poisoning and then died.


50 posted on 09/13/2016 3:26:29 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Yes, if there is anything about Scott that’s been turned into a movie or tv, I’ve seen it. Also, anything on Shackleton.


51 posted on 09/13/2016 3:29:22 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Islander7

bump to read later


52 posted on 09/13/2016 3:29:43 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.)
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To: miss marmelstein
>Swedish film that starred Max Von Sydow as an arctic explorer of a very tragic expedition.

Flight of the Eagle

53 posted on 09/13/2016 4:49:35 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: miss marmelstein

That movie is “Flight of the Eagle” about the Andrée balloon expedition of 1897. Haven’t seen it yet (although now you’ve inspired me to start looking) but I did read a good book about Andrée (Alec Wilkinson - “The Ice Balloon”) a couple of years ago.


54 posted on 09/13/2016 4:54:39 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Thank you, Eric! I need to write that down. I wonder if it’s available on dvd. If not, Criterion better move its rearend!


55 posted on 09/13/2016 4:56:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks again, Joe!


56 posted on 09/13/2016 5:12:50 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Islander7

They should have taken a Toyota Highlander and martini’s and gone to the North Pole like these guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkvASxfEWQ


57 posted on 09/13/2016 3:08:48 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Conan the Librarian

Awwww....I wonder if he made Mrs. Chippy a wee coffin?


58 posted on 09/13/2016 6:25:31 PM PDT by Zirondelle ("disce aut discede")
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To: Charles Martel; OKSooner
Terror and Erebus were originally bomb vessels, carrying mortars intended to rain explosive hellfire on troops on shore.

Case of: though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil...

59 posted on 09/13/2016 8:09:43 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Laws are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools" Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Zirondelle

I don’t think Shackleton would have allowed the use of materials.

He was a hard man, but, they all called him “Boss”. Not, because he was bossy, but, because they all totally trusted him to do the right thing and to keep them alive.

He didn’t disappoint them.


60 posted on 09/14/2016 8:41:50 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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