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Can We Save Venice Before It’s Too Late?
NY Times ^ | August 29, 2016 | Salvatore Settis

Posted on 08/30/2016 11:30:56 AM PDT by C19fan

A deadly plague haunts Venice, and it’s not the cholera to which Thomas Mann’s character Gustav von Aschenbach succumbed in the Nobel laureate’s 1912 novella “Death in Venice.” A rapacious tourist monoculture threatens Venice’s existence, decimating the historic city and turning the Queen of the Adriatic into a Disneyfied shopping mall.

Millions of tourists pour into Venice’s streets and canals each year, profoundly altering the population and the economy, as many native citizens are banished from the island city and those who remain have no choice but to serve in hotels, restaurants and shops selling glass souvenirs and carnival masks.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: History; Travel
KEYWORDS: italy; venice
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To: Monterrosa-24

lol. awesome post.


41 posted on 08/30/2016 11:56:31 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Venice California has been ruined too, it used to be a Latino ghetto and now it’s full of yuppies. I’m surprised the NY Times isn’t writing about that, too. There is a reason I don’t read that paper.


42 posted on 08/30/2016 11:56:42 AM PDT by Jack Black (Dispossession is an obliteration of memory, of place, and of identity)
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To: C19fan; Gamecock; PROCON; SaveFerris

I want to go there and write my novel, Venetian Blinds.


43 posted on 08/30/2016 11:58:09 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: avenir
Is it idyllic or dirty?

Depends on the tide and the winds.

44 posted on 08/30/2016 11:58:18 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: C19fan

Tourists suck, we’re not happy.

US airbase closes, our local economy is ruined, we’re not happy.

Can’t win. Too many visitors, sucks. Visitors stop coming altogether, sucks.

People can find anoter place. Surprised venice hasn’t been marked as being done to death already.


45 posted on 08/30/2016 11:58:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: C19fan

Deer dad, where are we going on vacation?

Venice, son?


46 posted on 08/30/2016 11:59:32 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Closer and they speak English!


47 posted on 08/30/2016 11:59:44 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
“We’ll always have Las Vegas!”
Amen to that.

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Yep, good ole Las Vegas...or should I say "Lost Wages."

Prostitution is legal there, OUTSIDE the city limits. One can plainly see the stream of Japanese-filled limos heading out the the "ranches." WHAT A FEATHER in Nevada's cap.

What has happened is Germany: Prostitution was made legal, with the thinking, "Well, they're going to do it anyway so let's TAX it." So, the pimps and prostitutes get "social security" benefits for their "work."

What has happened is that prostitution has GREATLY increased in Germany, since it's a legal "job." Girls and young women can now think: "Oh boy, I can be a prostitute for a living. Isn't that swell?"

Wouldn't YOU want your wife, sister, mother, any female (or male) relative to be a prostitute? There she is, MY little baby girl, lying on a bed, buck naked, with her legs up in the air, apart, at the mercy of a total stranger. Isn't that WONderful?

AT FIRST, the young women probably do operate with a "party" mentality, since they are, by their age, young and stupid.
THEN reality sets in and it's not so wonderful. Mr. Pimp then beats them and, if he's REALLY nice, gives them drugs to make the continual onslaught of sex, less dreadful.

Imagine, five "hook-ups" a night, 35 per week, 150 per month, 1800+ per year. That would be 18,000 in a mere ten years...and she would still be "young."
36,000 in twenty years...HOW lovely!

Side note: Making a behavior LEGAL doesn't make it right or holy. One only has to imagine what Jesus would say.
Germany is SUPPOSED to be a Christian country.
Nevada is SUPPOSED to be part of Christian America.

In the nasty ole middle east prostitution is ILLEGAL and wrong.
So is abortion.

Viva Las Vegas....yeah, right.

48 posted on 08/30/2016 12:00:09 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Larry Lucido

Blew it with the second question mark.


49 posted on 08/30/2016 12:00:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: C19fan

Wait, I thought people had a right to go anywhere they pleased. Or is that only for mexicans and moslems?


50 posted on 08/30/2016 12:00:19 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: blueunicorn6
And that's EXACTLY what's at issue - the unwashed masses having access to locations that the elite "own".

This guy doesn't want anything to change, except create new businesses, manufacturing (how would that work out), keep people, especially the young, from moving away and stop tourist ships from coming near.

Bankrupt & impoverish the city and its people, keeping it from developing real opportunities for the purpose of his pleasure.

check out the what this fellow's occupation is.

51 posted on 08/30/2016 12:00:50 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Larry Lucido
I want to go there and write my novel, Venetian Blinds.

Two-thirds of a pun: P U.

52 posted on 08/30/2016 12:01:15 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

The Venetian blinds and their seeing-eye dogs take up a lot of room.


53 posted on 08/30/2016 12:03:13 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: C19fan

We enjoyed our short visit to Venice, wish we had more time.. at least we got to cruise up the main canal and out by the tidal control gates.. quite a project.. and like Merkel’s new Germania .. all wet.


54 posted on 08/30/2016 12:07:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: C19fan

Armpit of Europe.


55 posted on 08/30/2016 12:13:27 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Steely Tom

Who’s we?


It must be up to the rest of the people, cuz you and I are not giving any money to do it. Good for “them.”


56 posted on 08/30/2016 12:13:58 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Larry Lucido
The Venetian blinds and their seeing-eye dogs take up a lot of room.

I ASSUME that their seeing-eye dogs would steer them away from their inevitable dog poop. One would HOPE.

57 posted on 08/30/2016 12:14:45 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: C19fan

Dear Venice Chamber of Commerce;

My sister recently visited your beautiful city, and was astounded by the History, Architecture, and friendly Hospitality offered by your citizens. She and her young daughter felt very safe traveling in the water-taxis, and came back with hundreds of photos of your churches, museums, the canals, and neighborhoods. She brought back some terrific examples of Murano Glass, and her trip will be remembered for years to come.

One of the things that impressed her the most was how much you have done to clean up the canals, shore up many of the ancient buildings, and provide your tourists with wonderful Guides and Docents in all of the historical places.

It has come to my attention that there is a left-wing, elitist publication in a foreign country that is attempting to sabotage and disrupt your one and only industry, and destroy you as a city. Perhaps it would be beneficial for you to sue the New York Times and the author of the article in question for slander resulting in the possible loss of the one industry of an entire community.

Just a thought!

Sincerely,
Me

(whaddaya think?) LOL


58 posted on 08/30/2016 12:15:40 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: C19fan
The place survived as a tourist attraction for Europe's elite until cheap travel and rising incomes opened it up to the masses. If no tourism there is no Venice.

The bold part is the heart of the problem as far as the NYT is concerned. Who wants ugly Americans mucking up the view?

59 posted on 08/30/2016 12:17:52 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: C19fan

We should send them a crack team of experts in city governance from Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland.

They would solve all these pesty problems associated with too much success.


60 posted on 08/30/2016 12:19:30 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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