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A Design Defect Is Breaking a Ton of iPhone 6 Pluses
iFixIt ^ | August 23, 2016 | BY JULIA BLUFF

Posted on 08/23/2016 1:48:10 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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21 posted on 08/23/2016 2:35:43 PM PDT by Bobalu (The moment Hillary was born, the doctor slapped her with a subpoena)
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To: eyeamok
And when AUTOMAKERS have a SMALL PROBLEM like this, they are FORCED BY THE Government to RECALL ALL OF THEM and REPAIR FOR FREE!!!

It is my understanding that these automobile recalls are for problems that can cause life threatening injuries or even death. iPhones don't normally cause this kind of mayhem.

22 posted on 08/23/2016 2:53:46 PM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: PAR35
They won’t fix problems for the proles (remember when they told folks they just had to hold their iPhones differently), but they’ll re-write their software to make Barb(a)ra Streisand happy. http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/22/technology/barbra-streisand-siri-name/

If Siri doesn't pronounce your name properly, you just tell her how you want her to pronounce your name and she will pronounce it that way from then on. That article was stupid. I can see that perhaps for a celebrity it might be necessary to add the correct pronunciation to Siri's data base so that Siri will ALWAYS pronounce "Bar-BRA" and not say "Bar-Bar-ah" in the normal way it is usually pronounced, but it is not a big deal.

As for "AntennaGate", there never was a problem with the antenna on the iPhone 4 (and Apple never told "folks" to hold their iPhones differently. That was a single email to one user from Steve Jobs in a joke.) The fact was that EVERY cellular phone will attenuate if you cover the antenna with your hand! Apple showed that every single cellular phone maker's manual had instructions showing the correct way to hold their phones, demonstrating that the user was NOT to cover the area where their antennas were located, usually with a red circle with a bar through the image of the user holding it that way. In fact, several technical labs tested every cellular phone and found that Apple's iPhone 4 attenuated LESS than every other phone on the market at that time when you placed your hand on the antenna. They also found that the iPhone was the most sensitive of the phones on the market and could both receive weaker signals that others could not, and was capable of sending stronger signals when covered than others due to the antenna not being inside the phone. "AntennaGate" was purely a marketing creation of Samsung and Google to push Samsung's newest Google Android phone.

The dropping of the signal associated with the iPhone occurred only on ONE carrier, AT&T, and only in areas where AT&T was oversold and could not service the new customers they were getting from Apple with the number of towers they had, or on the periphery of their areas. . . which is funny, because the iPhone in question could still get a signal where all the other cellular phones could not!

When Apple released that SAME, IDENTICAL iPhone to the rest of the world without modifying a thing, i.e. same antenna, the rest of the world had ZERO PROBLEMS with it. No dropped calls, no claims of loss of signal, no breathless stories about problems. Why? Because there was no marketing campaign going on from Samsung/Google.

Samsung expended $14 billion for marketing that year, but only $4.5 billion of that was for advertising expense. Over $9 billion was for social marketing, FUD!

As for fixing "problems for the proles", I have experienced taking a friend to the Genius bar with a two year out of warranty MacBook Pro that was not working properly. The Genius there came back and said they had determined they could not fix it and had decided it needed to be replaced. . . and laid a brand new MacBook Pro on the counter. My friend protested "I can't afford to buy a new one!"

The Apple guy, said, "Don't worry. It's no charge! Give us an hour so we can copy over your data for you. We will erase the data on your old hard drive. Do you want to witness us do that?"

An hour later we walked out with her brand new, $2500 MacBook Pro with a lot more RAM, fully set up, and all of her data intact on the new larger hard drive. . . than the broken system she walked in with, free of charge. With a new warranty!

So much for your "They won't fix it" meme.

23 posted on 08/23/2016 2:54:02 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
stop carrying your iPhone 6/6plus in a rear pocket

So, you're carrying it wrong? Sorry, couldn't resist... :)

24 posted on 08/23/2016 2:55:40 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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To: Swordmaker

Steven Jobs, you are missed.


25 posted on 08/23/2016 2:59:10 PM PDT by upchuck (The very worst of Trump is much better than the very best of Killary. Go TRUMP!)
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To: eyeamok
Not really, if the problem is widespread and can not be traced to a specific Item, MFG Date, Serial,... they are FORCED TO RECALL ALL OF THEM to Certify the Problem was Fixed.

Sure. Please cite the event. What auto recall could NOT be traced to a specific item, MFG date, serial etc. where they were EVER forced to recall every car manufactured by a auto manufacturer. You claim you were there and did that. So tell us. What car, what manufacturer. . .

The only one i can think of was the deliberate fraud from VW on their smog certification testing, and that doesn't meet the requirement. Even there it was specific models and years and serial numbers, not all of their cars.

26 posted on 08/23/2016 3:00:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I truly am a Luddite, I’m still using a Nokia 3585 that I got at the turn of the century.
They never fail.


27 posted on 08/23/2016 3:12:35 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
What is the failure rate?

From the numbers I am seeing, calculated on the total number of iPhone 6/6plus sold, less than 0.05% for this problem. The average failure rate for most phones is around 3.7% from all causes, not counting broken or cracked screens. The Apple rate is around 2.4% not counting broken or cracked screens. This isn't even a nose pimple on that body of failures for that model of iPhones.

Interesting article from an Android centric website on the comparison of failure rates of all Android phones v. all iPhones over the lives of those cellular phones:

Android phones failed at higher rates than iPhones in Q1, study shows, these are the worst offenders
13 May 2016, 05:06, by Daniel P.
Source — PhoneArena.com

Android phones failed at higher rates than iPhones in Q1, study shows, these are the worst offenders.

Android phones have been flooding the world for the last couple of years in all shapes, sizes and price points, so there is little wonder that they are failing at higher rates than the pricey, limited iPhone editions. Still, the latest phone failure rates study from the Blanca Technology Group comes to draw that conclusion in the form of a nice graph, so no complaints.

What the research firm found out is that the failure rate for Android devices was 44 percent, compared to 25 percent for the iOS-driven gear. Moreover, further analysis shows which Android phones have broken down most often in the previous quarter. That would be a few former Samsung flagship editions - S6, S5 and S6 Active - again no wonder, given how popular they are, but the Lenovo K3 Note sticks like a sore thumb in this graph, indicating some underlying problems with the handset. Ditto for the 3rd generation of the Moto G.

These two are budget handsets, so the failure rate of Samsung's mid- and high-end phones would be more concerning. Until you look at the actual percentage of failed units, that is - the 6-7% tally can hardly be called alarming. Unless you are in the failed device owner category, that is. As for Apple, out of the 25 percent of failed iOS devices for whatever reason, it's the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 5s models with the highest mishap rates, or those with the largest ownership base among iPhone fans.




28 posted on 08/23/2016 3:28:04 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Semaphore flags here..... old school is still school.


29 posted on 08/23/2016 3:30:10 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Bobalu

Rolling on the floor laughing my tin whiskers off!


30 posted on 08/23/2016 3:37:46 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Shanghai Dan
So, you're carrying it wrong? Sorry, couldn't resist... :)

Nope, Good one, that is funny.

31 posted on 08/23/2016 3:39:05 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Squantos
Semaphore flags here..... old school is still school.

Old school indeed. Can't remember any of it from scouting days. Only really used it once for badge after much practicing. Scout master, Korean War Marine vet. had our little troop positioned for a message relay back to him. Will never forget the message though, "chinks crossg yalu"

32 posted on 08/23/2016 3:43:01 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Bobalu
Lead free solder is a nightmare in critical devices as the solder promotes tin-whisker formation that can short out components.

The tin whiskers may actually be the modality of failure at work here, Bobalu. It would explain all of the symptoms. Whiskers growing from both directions across such small gaps will, occasionally touch under both minor flexing and also under heat expansion resulting in intermittent shorting of the IC connections. It would explain the flashing, irregular grey bar. Arcing, even at micro voltages and amperages,acts like that as it connects and breaks the connection.

33 posted on 08/23/2016 3:52:02 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Josa

That’s pretty common. My wife’s 6 S plus locks up at least once a day, but it looks good. We just reboot.

Usually happens after a phone call.


34 posted on 08/23/2016 4:01:40 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: eyeamok

A co-worker received a new company iPhone 6 a few months ago. Today he was prompted when he plugged it into iTunes to update. It failed. He was told to restore the device but that too failed. Tried a hard reset by holding down the Home + sleep/wake buttons but after seeing the apple logo it went back to the screen he started at.

Kinda annoying. Many people posting the same problem. No answer yet. He may end up with a new phone.


35 posted on 08/23/2016 4:01:57 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Covenantor

LMAO.... thats were I got my merit badge as well...... good skills retained from scouting, used throughout my life.

Stay Safe !


36 posted on 08/23/2016 4:10:43 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: eyeamok
"when AUTOMAKERS have a SMALL PROBLEM like this, they are FORCED BY THE Government to RECALL ALL OF THEM and REPAIR FOR FREE!!!"

That's only true when the defect involves safety of the vehicle. "Customer satisfaction" defects are not required by the government. Of course, they are covered by warranties that last far longer than the warranties Apple phones have.

37 posted on 08/23/2016 4:13:24 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Swordmaker
Happened to my 6 Plus six months ago. I carry it in my front pocket in loose pants. I was told my only option was to replace the phone with a new 6S Plus, NOT at $99 exchange (whatever that is).

I look forward to the class action lawsuit. I was told (after two hours sitting at Apple WITH a Genius Bar appointment) the phone was un-repairable.

38 posted on 08/23/2016 4:15:59 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Squantos

“Semaphore flags here..... old school is still school.”

I was a Morse Op, but that was 35 years ago. I’m still good unless you throw in special characters.


39 posted on 08/23/2016 4:16:55 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Swordmaker

Great advice - thanks.


40 posted on 08/23/2016 4:24:03 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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