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Only 11 percent of Trump backers expect 2016 votes to be counted accurately
Washington Post ^ | Aug. 20, 2016 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 08/20/2016 5:26:20 AM PDT by rickmichaels

Donald Trump says the 2016 election will be "rigged." He has even suggested, despite very little evidence of actual voter fraud in the United States, that it's the only way he might lose a state like Pennsylvania.

We shouldn't be surprised if this message catches on — if there is substantial questioning of an outcome in which he loses, especially in a close race. I laid out my case for why earlier this week.

And now, more polling data suggests this is fertile territory for Trump to plant seeds of doubt in case he loses. Trump backers this year, it turns out, are uniquely skeptical of the vote-counting process.

In new Pew poll, just 11 percent of Trump backers say they are "very" confident that the votes in the 2016 election will be counted accurately. Another 37 percent are "somewhat" confident, and half of the GOP nominee's supporters are either "not too" (31 percent) or "not at all" (19 percent) confident.

In contrast, 49 percent of Clinton supporters are "very" confident, and only 20 percent are either "not too" or "not at all" confident.

What's especially interesting about the Pew numbers is that they indicate the shoe was once on the other foot.

Back in 2004, it was Democratic voters who were more concerned about inaccurate vote counts. When Pew asked how confident they were that their own votes would be accurately counted — a more personal version of the previous question — 48 percent of Democrats said they were "very" confident, while 75 percent of Republicans were.

This was very likely the lingering effects of a contested 2000 presidential election — Florida, "hanging chads" and all that — which wound up going Republicans' way.

But even then, Democratic voters were more confident in the vote-counting process than Republicans are now. Today, even without a similar recent controversy for Republicans to point to, those numbers are 67 percent for Democrats to just 38 percent for Republicans.

So, to reiterate, even after a 2000 election in which many Democrats thought Florida election officials essentially miscounted votes and handed the presidency to George W. Bush, Democratic voters were still more confident about the vote-counting process than Trump voters are today.

Now, this doesn't mean that the vast majority of Trump backers are expecting a totally "rigged" election. It's possible that they think the inaccuracies would be too small to matter — and that the inaccuracies might not be deliberate. Miscounting votes is not the same thing as large-scale voter fraud.

But as I wrote earlier this week, other data does indicate that many Republicans believe there could be rather large-scale voter fraud. A majority of Wisconsin Republicans — 54 percent — said in 2014 that fraud of one type or another moves thousands of votes in the state in every election, despite a lack of evidence to back up that theory.

And with the 2016 GOP nominee pushing that idea hard, it seems quite possible to catch on.


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KEYWORDS: 2016polls; cultureofcorruption; voterfraud
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To: rickmichaels

We need to turn out at polling sites and election offices to see that votes do get taken and counted correctly.


61 posted on 08/20/2016 2:15:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Liz
(hat tip extexasredhead). Pass the word....use your I-phone to photo your completed ballot showing your Trump vote and your voter number.

Good one... Also, we can be pretty sure if "homeland" is involved they'll be protecting those doing the fraud...not honest Americans.

62 posted on 08/20/2016 2:18:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (Leftist agitators employe fascist tactics Kyle Olson FRAUD IS DONE BY VOTING THOSE WHO DON'T SHOW UP)
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To: Liz
(hat tip extexasredhead). Pass the word....use your I-phone to photo your completed ballot showing your Trump vote and your voter number.

Good one... Also, we can be pretty sure if "homeland" is involved they'll be protecting those doing the fraud...not honest Americans.

63 posted on 08/20/2016 2:18:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (Leftist agitators employe fascist tactics Kyle Olson FRAUD IS DONE BY VOTING THOSE WHO DON'T SHOW UP)
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To: Liz; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; WildHighlander57; ...
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Check out # 14 .

Thanks, Liz.

64 posted on 08/20/2016 3:24:50 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Liz; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; WildHighlander57; ...
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Back to the thread; check out # 50 .

Thanks again, Liz.

65 posted on 08/20/2016 3:27:32 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Liz; LucyT

” <><> use your I-phone to photo your completed ballot showing your Trump vote and your voter number.

<><> photo your official precinct voter registration page.

<><> photo any perceived voter suppression/intimidation
BLM-types lurking around the precinct, for example. “

The polling place I go to has a sign “no cell phone use beyond this point” right before you go to the desk where you sign in; beyond that are the voting booths.

I guess we gotta take pics anyway.


66 posted on 08/20/2016 5:22:24 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: GOPJ; Liz; ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; rickmichaels; All
Fraud is DONE BY VOTING THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T SHOW UP TO VOTE.

"THE DEAD" VOTE IS AN ACCIDENTAL BYPRODUCT of that system of FRAUD. Count the dead vote and you get an idea of the extent of the fraud.

That is perhaps the most "traditional" election fraud/cheating scheme, but it's far from the only one.

In the modern era, with electronic voting and electronic vote counting, fudging vote totals electronically is a bigger issue, because it is potentially much more efficient in distorting the reported vote totals. The nerdy hacker is more valuable to an election rigging scheme today than the political hack operative who knows how to organize fake votes for dead and disabled voters.

67 posted on 08/20/2016 5:46:47 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
.......electronic voting and electronic vote-counting is a bigger issue, because it is potentially much more efficient in distorting the reported vote totals.....

Individuals fraudulently voting in a precinct is only a small percentage of the massive voter fraud the corrupt Clintons are capable of.

For instance, a precinct computer can be programmed to change every Repub vote to Dem....then erases the evidence.

The power-obsessed Clintons are determined that nothing will prevent them from getting back the govt power they crave.

68 posted on 08/20/2016 5:56:18 PM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Jane Long

Understand the same yet the video at the link is still a valid starting point to becoming a poll watcher. Legally inserting yourself into the polling place to watch and report irregularities .....

Stay Safe !!


69 posted on 08/20/2016 7:05:37 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: rickmichaels

despite a lack of evidence to back up that theory.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I guess it’s hard to see the evidence if you refuse to look at it.

140% turn out is evidence. 100% of the vote in some Philly districts is evidence. Voter’s personally reporting that they voted Republican but the voting machine recorded a Democrat vote this is evidence.


70 posted on 08/20/2016 9:19:24 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: justiceseeker93

Yes, there are new ways to cheat... you’re right on that...

Then there’s ‘Homeland’ - setting themselves up to ‘watch the process - - like putting the fox in charge of security for the Hen House. If Homeland Security does anything they would be protecting the criminals doing the fraud.

We’ve got to come up with lots of ways to catch the fraud... the old style voter fraud - and the newer style voter fraud.


71 posted on 08/21/2016 3:16:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Leftist agitators employe fascist tactics Kyle Olson FRAUD IS DONE BY VOTING THOSE WHO DON'T SHOW UP)
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To: Liz

Obama Administration Plotting to Usurp Control Over Elections
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3461124/posts

[Nationalize elections in the name of cyber-security.]


72 posted on 08/21/2016 4:53:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: CodeToad

In Virginia during this primary, you have to be on the list to vote. You even need your address to be memorized. Come back to vote a second time, and I assume they call the cops.


73 posted on 08/21/2016 4:57:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Hah---like the American electorate is going to allow this boob/fascist to control their elections? Boobamba should do it if he wants to know what it feels like to get dumped from office.

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Boobamba and his henchman DHS Jeh Johnson figure they got billions to finagle those Hillary votes.

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AUDIT DHS AUDIT DHS AUDIT DHS AUDIT DHS
We demand to know where the money is going.

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Homeland Security seeks $41.2 billion budget for 2016
February 4, 2015 By BioPrepWatch Reports

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson announced a $41.2 billion budget request Monday for the 2016 fiscal year.

The budget would improve the unity of effort at the department, Johnson said, focusing on harmonizing DHS business processes. Along with the budget, a new Common Appropriations Structure was also submitted to Congress, which would standardize financial planning, programming and budgets for all DH agencies, Johnson said.

There are five areas the department focuses on each year, and the budget is in alignment with those five missions, Johnson said.

<><> The first mission is to prevent terrorism and enhance security in the country by implementing security for the land, air and at sea.

<><> The next mission is to secure and manage the countrys borders, and reduce the number of illegal immigrants and amount of contraband getting into the United States.

<><> The third mission includes enforcing and administering immigration laws and providing safe and secure detention of illegal immigrants in federal custody if they are a flight risk or a public safety concern.

<><> The fourth mission deals with safeguarding and securing cyberspace, which impacts economic security. The 2016 budget would invest in technology and staff to reduce cybercrime and improve the security of federal network defenses.

<><> The fifth mission, Johnson said, is to strengthen national preparedness and resilience so the country can prepare and respond to any type of disaster.

Johnson said before Congress approves any funding for the next fiscal year lawmakers should approve funding for the current year.

The Presidents FY 2016 Budget provides the resources necessary for the Department of Homeland Security to further strengthen our efforts to fulfill our wide-ranging missions, while also being agile and vigilant in the face of ever-evolving threats and recent world events, Johnson said. But prior to acting on the FY 2016 Budget, I urge Congress to fully fund DHS for the rest of this fiscal year, as the current continuing resolution is disruptive, creates uncertainty, and impedes efficient resource planning and execution.

SOURCE http://bioprepwatch.com/news/homeland-

74 posted on 08/21/2016 5:12:06 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Liz

So an an Obama appointee is a creep? Wow, I’m so ‘surprised’.

Thank you for the detailed info. Will copy it for the other thread.

But I ran a google and Johnson interprets that the power legislated to him gives him authority to regulate voting machines since terrorists could hack into our voting machines and disrupt public tranquility.

But it’s being pandered as ‘setting standards’. So while we might not be required to subject ourselves to one specific voting machine, he can cherry pick which systems are vulnerable.


75 posted on 08/21/2016 5:36:14 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The conniving power-obsessed Clintons are determined that nothing will prevent them from getting back the govt power they crave....and Boobamba needs then in office to advance his post-presidency get rich quick plans.

.......electronic voting and electronic vote-counting is a big issue, because it is potentially much more efficient in distorting the reported vote totals.....

Individuals fraudulently voting in a precinct is only a small percentage of the massive voter fraud the corrupt Clintons are capable of.

The Clinton/Obama plans are easy.....a precinct computer can be programmed to change every Repub vote to Dem....then erases the evidence.

Start worrying.

76 posted on 08/21/2016 5:42:25 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
TRUMP ONLINE http://www.donaldtrump2016online.com/

Contact link over at the right.

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(hat tip BigEdLB) Trump needs to have this in place BEFORE the election:

<><> a database of every precinct in the country.

<><> a database of every address in the country.

<><> purchase datasets of people from Intelius and or Zabasearch.

<><> Merge all and see what pops up.

<><> get the Social Security death index. Make sure that if you are on the ssdi, you aren’t registered to vote.

<><>line up poll watchers for precincts with abnormal turnout.

As to the vote side: see if there is a way to demand a paper trail through the court system of the states. If the integrity check of the machines fails, ask for an order for paper ballots. Machine-only precincts have paper ballots in case of a power outage or hard drive crash.

77 posted on 08/21/2016 5:44:36 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: Liz

We both have been ringing the alarm for decades now. And ...

WE HAVE YET BEGUN TO FIGHT!


78 posted on 08/21/2016 5:47:07 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Liz

Actually, if Trump loses the election, they won’t care what stats he finds. Obama will recheck the loyalty of all in his administration and smooth the path for Hillary.

Chief ‘Just-us’ Roberts is owned, so the supreme-sandwich court will gavel down against Trump and any state which sides against fraud.

No, we would beg the RINOs to save us by legislating out rogue ‘just-us’ es from the bench. [Solutions found in Levin’s ‘Men in Black.] That would most likely fail.

If Hillary wins via voter fraud, it would be an ugly time when no legal solutions will be possible.


79 posted on 08/21/2016 5:53:12 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: All
THIS JUST IN---Twitter's Mass Purge of Those Expressing 'Extremist' Ideas

Twitter is the electronic Sturmabteilung closing ranks....and it's on
the march. Paving the way for Boobamba to takeover our elections.

Such party loyalty.......the whiff of 1940's era Europe assaults the nostrils.

Just like that (snaps fingers), Twitter creates "the Master Race."
The little paper-hanger would be proud.

80 posted on 08/21/2016 5:56:26 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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