Posted on 08/17/2016 4:25:46 PM PDT by ak267
As I demonstrated in yesterday’s article, How Bloomberg Spun its Own Poll Data to Make Hillary Clinton Seem Inevitable, the media is intentionally spinning poll results at best, and completely fabricating them at worst.
While that’s bad enough, there are also some deep, fundamental problems which plague any attempts to conduct accurate polling in 2016. Cliff Zukin, professor of public policy and political science at Rutgers University and a past president of the American Association for Public Opinion Research, wrote about many of these issues in a 2015 New York Times opinion piece titled, What’s the Matter With Polling?
(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...
Here is the money quote:
“Some polling organizations will move to sampling from voter lists, which will miss recently registered voters and campaigns’ efforts to mobilize them.”
So this is where the recent “likely voter” polls get there outdated information. They are missing a large chunk of Trump voters. But, of course, that’s ok...because it fits their narrative.
HALF a high school gym !
ML/NJ
Reuter Roooters is “warning” Dems(?) LoL about the polls.
“(Reuters) Pollster warns Clinton’s lead over Trump is so”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3460409/posts
Pollster are so full of it.
I saw a stats geek’s piece...think it was at 538....saying “the pols are accurate”
Yet in the same week you can find a poll that has it a 1 point race and a TEN point race.
They can’t BOTH be true.....
With all the media going after Trump... what makes anyone think their polls would be accurate if Trump was ahead. These aren’t romney polls. these are TRUMP polls. They’d report them in favor if Trump? not on your life!
Fox news spent 1 hour hating Trump this evening .. 5 minutes on hillary. They do not understand YET.. that they are insulting millions of voters who have more sense than any in Washington. If ya don’t think like they do, you’re an idiot. Idiocracy is that there are people who see nothing wrong with what all she has done and would vote for her .. Blows my mind that this country is THERE.
“More and more people on both ends of the age spectrum do not have landline phones. They only have cell phones.”
That’s why poll questions are weighted.
With that pollsters can determine the answers that cell phone only households would provide if they were to be polled.
With weighting, and an accurate sample frame, pollsters can interview 856 people and obtain results with 3.5% margin or error.
If Trump should be able to overwhelm Rat fraud the libtards can whine all they want. The question is, “What are they prepared to do about it?”. Nothing unless I underestimate libtards. Ask the converse question and an entirely different result will come forth.
No, and I have even started answering those calls. Turns out they were all robo calls wanting to lend my business money I don’t need.
That is why I started answering those calls. I was hoping to lie to them.
There are libs around these parts who still moan that the election was out and out stolen by Bush/Repubs and now we’ve got anarchists hard at work using police for hunting practice while claiming that they are the victims. If libs lose, these forces will join with the “intelletual” left which has openly whined that they wish Obama could be a dictator (then everything will be ok). Toss in the jihadis and it could be a violent race war/terrorism start to the next administration. Or we could get lucky and all the lib whiners/anarchists/and intellectuals will immigrate to the lovely UAE where everyone is “freer” to be good.
I got no heartburn either way. Immigrate or fight. We win.
I haven’t watched Fox in over a month. I can’t be the only one.
Yes
We use no more robocalls on our two land lines. Zero pollsters have gotten through since we started using no more robocalls, 2 plus years ago.”
ditto. and i also have a white list to let those through I want, and a catchall filter that shunts the rest to an interactive voice response of me explaining how to press 1 if you want to talk with me. that little baby stops the rest cold.
And i’m building my own block list of numbers that routes them to a “this number is no longer in service” message followed by the related ‘Special Information Tones’ (S.I.T.)tone, which robocaller equipment will respond to by deleting your number from its lists. Now that has REALLY cut down on the junk calls as the word gets out that my number has been disconnected!
Some bad ones sneak through, usually local ones, and I put them on a call forwarding list.
Their calls get forwarded to the local DA’s office to report scams. They never call again.
They're fixin' to steal it.
Hillary doesn't need to show up to anything. Easy-peasy.
I have been robo-called on an unpublished digital phone at my office since the beginning of the primaries (not so much lately though).
Once in a while I listen until the machine asks for the first response. The questions are always aimed at someone living hundreds of miles from where I work.
They need to work on their location algorithm.
What does “rutt rohh” mean in the header?
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