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FBI goes back to 9mm with Glock
guns.com ^ | June 30, 2016 | Daniel Terrill

Posted on 06/30/2016 3:44:49 PM PDT by PROCON


The Federal Bureau of Investigation awarded Glock an $85 million contract to produce 9mm handguns for the better part of a decade, according to the notice published Wednesday.

The contract marks a milestone in the history of FBI weapons as the agency famously ditched 9mm in the mid-1980s for a larger .40-caliber handgun. The return comes after 30 years of ballistic improvements to 9mm ammunition.

The contract covers five items that include a compact pistol, a full-size pistol, an inert training pistol, a Simunition training pistol, and replacement parts, according to the solicitation.

Specifications in the solicitation suggest Glock will be supplying the FBI with a Glock 19 compact and a Glock 17 for the full-size pistol.

Initial requests included a compact pistol with a barrel length between 3.75-4.25 inches, a minimum 14-round capacity, and night sights. And the full-size with a barrel 4.26-5.2 inches, minimum mag capacity of 16 rounds and night sights.

The FBI estimates spending between $20 million to $85 million in the next 10 years under the contact.

While the price may seem excessive, the contract may also equip 10 federal law enforcement agencies — ATF, DEA, U.S. Marshals, etc — and the Office of Inspector General for all federal agencies.

The caliber change comes 30 years after the agency’s high-profile response (dramatic among handgun aficionados) to a shootout that ended with the deaths of two agents who were essentially outgunned. The agency formally switched from revolvers to semi-auto pistols.

According to the American Rifleman, initially, the change was to a Smith & Wesson Model 1076 chambered in 10mm, which is on par with .40 caliber. But the results were poor and the agency replaced it with Sig 226 as a temporary fix. In 1997, the FBI officially adopted Glock .40 S&W pistols as the service pistol for agents.


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KEYWORDS: 9mm; banglist; fbi; glock
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To: MtnClimber

Women could not handle the 10mm.

They switched to 40 cal.

Guess now that is too much.


61 posted on 06/30/2016 4:38:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I have occasional bear problems where I live. Had a black bear right by my front door at noon about two weeks ago. My SD has to include them. I have not had to shoot one yet, but I have to take off my shoes to count the encounters I have had. I had two two legged encounters when I lived in Florida, but here in the Colorado Rockies I have only had bear problems, though moose and mountain lion are possibilities too.


62 posted on 06/30/2016 4:38:52 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: umgud

That is definitely not CA compliant. It has an open trigger guard. To be CA compliant the trigger guard must be completely closed.


63 posted on 06/30/2016 4:39:48 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: PROCON

GLOCK 23 40 is my bedstand go to weapon and I pray never have to employ it. However, Glocks are not for beginners, training is crucial for those who choose Glock for home or personal defense.


64 posted on 06/30/2016 4:44:30 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.56)
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To: All

Wimps.

Now that I have it tuned, accurate and reliable, 460 Rowland is my EDC. Powerful enough if I run into a mean black bear. Ten rounds per each Chip McCormick mag for serious social situations.


65 posted on 06/30/2016 4:44:47 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: slouper
Glocks are not for beginners,

Absolutely and if you're not comfortable carrying a chambered round in your Glock, there are other many other fine double-action handguns available.

66 posted on 06/30/2016 4:58:06 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: NFHale; gundog
$17.00 even from Hi-Point. They have 'em in digital camo, woodland camo, pink camo (for the ladies), carbon fiber, American flag (!), light wood grain, dark wood grain, burlwood.....all sorts of little odds and ends.

ACCESSORIES


67 posted on 06/30/2016 4:58:36 PM PDT by Viking2002 (The gargoyles have taken over the cathedral.)
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To: PROCON

Ditto that!


68 posted on 06/30/2016 5:00:59 PM PDT by day10 (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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To: Joe Boucher

I love my Sig P220 Extreme. After that my Springfield XDM 45ACP.


69 posted on 06/30/2016 5:03:02 PM PDT by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Wow, 600 plus rounds before they had to change out the guide rod and then another 600 rounds.

And that was full auto.

Love it.

70 posted on 06/30/2016 5:10:02 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: PROCON

I wonder if it’s anything to do with the new delicate snowflakes being recruited. More rounds and less recoil.


71 posted on 06/30/2016 5:11:07 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Viking2002; gundog

Anti-gunners, PETA, BLM, whatever... they’re ALL the same group of assh*les.

They ALL look alike to me. :^)

RE pink camo (for the ladies):

My daughter wants a pink AR. She loves to shoot my M4, butI told her she’ll have to get her own in pink... or “Hello Kitty”... haha!


72 posted on 06/30/2016 5:16:30 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
God, no, not HELLO KITTY!!!!!!!!


73 posted on 06/30/2016 5:21:17 PM PDT by Viking2002 (The gargoyles have taken over the cathedral.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
My top three in no particular order are: Glock, Sig Sauer and FN.

That's the problem with those three: the order changes with the wind.

Glock is rock solid, but less than ergonomic "perfection." Sig is like a refined Glock, but a little bit more finicky about what you feed it. And FN is a little too "thoroughbred" to play in the dirt with the other two ;o)

74 posted on 06/30/2016 5:22:18 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: karnage
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75 posted on 06/30/2016 5:23:18 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither.)
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To: PROCON

A friend had the larger flock, fires it very often and after firing he sprays it with a CLP. He has never cleaned it in thec10+ years he’s bienedbit. It had become a sciensr project. I am still impressed but haven’t jumped.


76 posted on 06/30/2016 5:29:26 PM PDT by Clutch Martin
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To: Crash Fistfight
They need to carry hammer fired pistols or DA/SA. Especially the agencies that minimally train their agents. Way to many negligent discharges.

Disagree.

NDs are prima faci evidence said agencies training regimes ARE NOT up to common civilian standards, and need to be enhanced!

77 posted on 06/30/2016 5:31:54 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: PROCON

I have a lot of guns, but never had a Glock. That video made me a believer.


78 posted on 06/30/2016 5:32:47 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: gop4lyf

I love 1911’s and have a few Kimber 1911’s and a Sig 1911, but the aluminum framed versions cannot even take +P ammo. And running it dirty? Forget it. I love 1911’s but they are limited in what they can do compared to a Glock.


79 posted on 06/30/2016 5:35:43 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Billthedrill

now with subtitles

https://youtu.be/WzHEOSyMqug


80 posted on 06/30/2016 5:52:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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