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Workers will soon enter the tomb of Jesus — and repair the ‘Holy Stone’ with titanium bolts
June 20 at 4:20 PM | By William Booth

Posted on 06/20/2016 5:06:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: skr

True. But don’t we prostrate toward the object of veneration?
That guy is pointing himself toward something outside, away from the Holy Sepulchre, which would presumably be located beneath the raised spire or turret-like portion.


21 posted on 06/20/2016 7:05:05 PM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again.)
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To: DanielRedfoot
"And the King ascended the stairs, and grasping the Holy Bolts, enumerated them to the awestruck assemblage. He intoned:"
"ONE!"

"TWO!"

"FIVE!"

"Uh, three, Sire."
"Right! THREE!!"
And there was much rejoicing.
22 posted on 06/20/2016 7:10:28 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: SkyDancer
Doesn’t matter - Yeshua is not there. He Is Risen. Why venerate an empty tomb?

Perhaps for the same reason we visit our loved ones in cemeteries. We know that the thing that made them them is no longer on this Earth, but it lets us feel close to them.

I don't know if my physical condition will let me, but I'd go in a minute.

23 posted on 06/20/2016 7:14:39 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: DanielRedfoot

Classic.


24 posted on 06/20/2016 7:20:08 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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To: Riley

“Zooming way in, he has a design on his shirt that might be a red cross on a white shield.”

if that’s the case, it’s the flag of England, with the Cross of St. George on a white background.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_England


25 posted on 06/20/2016 7:20:53 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: Riley

But they’re not there either. I understand as a contact thing but Christians believe what the Apostle Paul wrote that to be absent from the body is to be with the Lord. We are nothing but vessels containing who we are and when the vessel breaks it’s put into the ground and the essence of what we were is no longer there. It’s just like a glass holding water; we’re like the water in that vessel. The vessel breaks and the water leaves but it’s still water. We are still who we are but no longer contained in the vessel we know as our bodies.


26 posted on 06/20/2016 7:27:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Swordmaker

Last I checked, Jesus spent 3 days in a tomb hewn out of stone, like a cave, then he resurrected.

Where did this ornate structure come from? I don’t recall reading about it in Scripture.


27 posted on 06/20/2016 7:43:32 PM PDT by cyclotic (Guns don't kill people. Abortion clinics kill people)
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To: cyclotic

Every new testament site in Jerusalem has a church built over it.


28 posted on 06/20/2016 7:49:46 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

But where is any proof that this is his tomb? Remember, he was executed as a common criminal. Joseph of Arimathea gave him his tomb, freshly hewn to fulfill prophecy. Is Josephs body and that of his family in this tomb?


29 posted on 06/20/2016 7:51:59 PM PDT by cyclotic (Guns don't kill people. Abortion clinics kill people)
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To: cyclotic

these sites weren’t just picked at random. they were pilgrimage sites going all the way back to the time of Jesus. at some point, the faithful started building churches so that these sites would be forever known.

your question is like asking how we know where the Appian Way is. the answer is that the Appian Way stayed in use from ancient times until now. even if parts of it were paved over, Romans know exactly where it is/was because Romans have a continuous history with it.


30 posted on 06/20/2016 8:43:16 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: SkyDancer

Thank you


31 posted on 06/20/2016 8:45:35 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: cyclotic
Where did this ornate structure come from? I don’t recall reading about it in Scripture.

I believe the ornate structure did not exist at the time of the crucifixion, but was built later around the cave site.

32 posted on 06/20/2016 10:04:36 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: cyclotic
Last I checked, Jesus spent 3 days in a tomb hewn out of stone, like a cave, then he resurrected.

Where did this ornate structure come from? I don’t recall reading about it in Scripture.

In the last 1600 years or so, only in the last 150 years was it considered important to preserve archaeological finds as they were, especially religious archaeological finds. Even such finds as "the True Cross" we're routinely chopped up into much smaller parts to send to a myriad churches so each of them could have a piece of it. Other pieces would be given to high officials of governments as souvenirs by the popes and other church officials who wanted favors from their governments. It's a wonder that the Shroud of Turin wasn't cut to pieces and sent all over. Some pieces were taken from it, but its private ownership essentially prevented it from that happening during the period of such practices.

That ornate structure was built on top of the original tomb found by Emperor Constantine's mother around 400AD, if that was the right one in the first place. It may actually be the Garden Tomb which doesn't have any ornate medieval construction built anywhere near it.

33 posted on 06/20/2016 10:37:39 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Hulka; Swordmaker; Riley; mumblypeg

Remember that the Moslems copied the ritual of proskynesis from the Syriac and Nestorian Christians


34 posted on 06/21/2016 1:14:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: SkyDancer

Well we still have Independence Hall in Philadelphia as a reminder of when this country fought for its freedom. We need that reminder of Jesus having risen from the dead.


35 posted on 06/21/2016 3:23:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: freedumb2003

Will Jerry Rivers broadcast on Faux News a repeat of Al Capone’s famous secret room opening?


36 posted on 06/21/2016 3:34:38 AM PDT by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: Swordmaker

I read up last night this wonderful article via the Washington Post online. One of the few good articles from that news source.


37 posted on 06/21/2016 3:37:19 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: DanielRedfoot

We shall need...

the holy bolt holder! The holiest of all holy bolt holders!

(well done btw)


38 posted on 06/21/2016 4:57:27 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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To: Biggirl

Just asking but why do you need a reminder that our Savior has risen when we know He has? Well perhaps since we do look to an empty Cross as a reminder then an empty tomb should be as well. But as the angel said to the women: “Why do you weep, for He is not here?”


39 posted on 06/21/2016 6:44:50 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Hulka

Nah. No rug.


40 posted on 06/21/2016 7:02:42 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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