Posted on 06/19/2016 9:44:45 PM PDT by Silly
Hi, all, very excited I joined NRA with their EasyPayLife plan on Friday. Now I'm want to move forward.
As I select a handgun, I do plan to try different models at gun ranges and talk with close friends who shoot. I know in time I will find something that I really connect with.
And before I purchase, I will have lots of solid training and hopefully some sort of certification(s) under my belt (suggest a few if you think of them).
Meanwhile, I would appreciate suggestions. I want a model that is classic, easy to care for, good power, and doesn't cost a fortune. It is a one-time purchase, so I won't buy the cheapest thing out there, but I have to watch my money. I will be putting away money each month to build up my firearm savings account so when I'm ready to buy I can do so. And I'd like a model that doesn't require high-priced ammo.
(FYI, I will likely not be able to keep the firearm in my apartment (still checking laws), as I live in Manhattan. So I will find a safe place for the gun outside the city limits to store it (Westchester, Long Island, New Jersey) where I can travel to easily and quickly to train. Just thought I should throw that piece of info in there.)
Mostly now, I'd like suggestions on models and why they should be considered. I'll Google them and really appreciate your help.
Welcome aboard.
You have made a good, responsible choice. You will not regret it. As you live in New York City, you are about to embark on a voyage of discovery that will be intense, frustrating, and eye opening.
You have taken the real life equivalent of the red pill from The Matrix. I wish you well, FRiend. Please keep us informed about your progress. It will be educational for all. As a start, I suggest that you watch John Stossel’s account of his attempt to obtain a pistol license in New York City.
https://www.ijreview.com/2016/04/589977-john-stossel-tries-to-obtain-a-firearm-permit-in-nyc/
As you will be attempting to gain a permit to simply own a pistol, you have a chance of success.
Here is my essay on how New York became a nexus of Second Amendment Infringement.
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/04/how-new-york-became-nexus-of-second.html
You must have really big rooms in your house...
“I think you’re a troll. Can’t figure out why, though.”
My first thoughts, also.
Nice to see you about.
L
Here’s my advice. Remember, it’s worth exactly what you paid for it.
Find a good quality used .357 magnum revolver. I’d recommend something with a 4” barrel length. Have it looked at by a competent gunsmith before you purchase.
Reasoning: This gun can safely chamber and fire both .357 magnum and .38 Special ammunition. It’s far less complex to learn to use than a semi auto. You can practice with less powerful and less expensive .38 ammo, then use .357 for defense work.
You also don’t need to worry about extra magazines, etc.
Revolvers are great for learning the fundamentals of shooting as well.
Just my two cents, YMMV.
Best,
L
I’m a long time member of the NRA. Don’t own a gun...yet. And I’m no troll.
I bought a KelTec P-11 about three years ago. Sold it in a month.
Not a fan of double action only triggers.
In NY, anything other than a close encounter shooting will put you in jail for a long time. FYI -- Although I have several semi-autos, I carry a Ruger SP 101 2.25". With practice, it is accurate enough to hit center mass at 25 yards.
You need to deal with the legal solution first and foremost:
First, you will never get a handgun permit where you reside in NYC.
Second, you will need a handgun permit in order to legally purchase a handgun.
Third, handgun permits are county specific in that you can only get a handgun permit (outside of NYC) upon the approval of the county sheriff and county court judge in the county where you reside as a full-time resident.
FYI -- the way this works outside of NYC is that you must first obtain a handgun permit before you are legally allowed to even touch a pistol or revolver at a gun shop. To obtain a permit you must submit a lengthy application, fingerprints, photo, and four recommendations from non-family members who reside in the county where you reside, to the county sheriff in the county where you reside. After a two month to two year wait -- depending upon the county -- and assuming you pass the background check, a handgun permit will/shall be issued, but again, depending upon the county and the sheriff's view of the 2nd Amendment, the permit will either be full carry or limited to home, business, range, and/or hunting. Next, you take the permit to the gun shop and pick out your handgun and put down a deposit. The gun shop then gives you a coupon with the make, model, caliber, and serial number of the handgun, which you must then bring to the county sheriff, for processing, including another background check, and then to the county court judge for approval, which can take another two weeks to six months or more. You will then be issued a new permit with the handgun listed on the back, which you then bring to gun shop to pick up your handgun after passing the national background check. In total, you will need to pass three redundant background checks -- one when you apply for the handgun permit, one when you submit the purchase coupon from the gun shop to the sheriff and county judge for approval, and one when you pick the handgun up from the gun shop.
Bump for later.
Ping
Man, that is a tough regulatory environment! Aside from that, the best advice is to build up your gun fund enough to buy two: a .22 for the majority of your range practice, and a larger caliber (.38 or better-avoid .380). I have a Ruger SR-22, a compact semi-auto that is a ton of fun to shoot. .22 LR ammo is much less expensive. I also bought a Remington 1911 (.45 ACP), because it was one of the first hand guns I fired, I hit what I aimed at, and it felt good in my hand. The Ruger set me back about $250, and the 1911 was maybe $650. I reload my own .45 ACP. It’s less expensive long-term to do that, plus I found the activity very relaxing.
Silly, you say you live in Manhattan. To get a Pistol Permit (something you need to own one) takes an act of God, there. Substituting your address will be detected and will be used as a reason to deny. Be aware of all this.
Silly, Labyrinthos spelled it out better.
My solution was to relocate from NYS to the Great State of Georgia.
Easy now, how do we know?
The only way to be sure is to make your best chili recipe. I will taste test, and pass a verdict heh.
Way off topic sorry.
I will say my gut says something not quite right with poster though.
Well, what is a troll going to find out about gun owners here that isn’t known by our government?
There’s no amount of show tunes, chi-chi restaurants, or “cultural enrichment” worth putting up with THAT nonsense!
I’m surprised they don’t make you sacrifice a chicken to the city council!
Laz, my former boss, a good friend, is a legal gun owner in NYC. It does happen.
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