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Who Will Replace the Beretta M9 as the Official U.S. Army Sidearm? 20 Contenders Become 3
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Posted on 06/08/2016 9:17:22 AM PDT by MtnClimber

For nearly two years now, the U.S. Army has been trying to replace its Beretta M9 service weapon -- and believe it or not, the Army is finally starting to make some progress. Slow progress, to be sure, but progress nonetheless.

Last week, the military hardware specialists at IHS Jane's reported that out of the 20 industry teams previously believed to be interested in selling the Army a new Modular Handgun System (MHS), only a dozen actually submitted bids in response to the Army's official Request for Proposals.

From these, the Army expects to "downselect" just three finalists in August. It will then spend a further nine months evaluating how well the finalists actually produce weapons matching the designs they have submitted. At that point, nearly three years after the process began, the Army thinks it will be ready to pick a winner.

And the winner is ... Who will that winner be? That's hard to say, because even at this late date, we still don't know precisely who is competing. Janes believes that the 12 competitors who submitted bids include:

(Excerpt) Read more at fool.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: army; banglist; sidearm
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To: MtnClimber
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21 posted on 06/08/2016 9:44:56 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither.)
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To: Brookhaven

They aren’t smart enough to choose the CZ. It’ll be a modular design with adjustable grips for girls, silencer ready although most soldiers will never see a silencer.
It will be probably the worst pistol ever fielded by a modern military.

A CZ would be fantastic. A Glock would be fantastic. But a CZ is not a communist pistol. No pistol has ever been known to participate in politics.


22 posted on 06/08/2016 9:46:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Gaffer

Leave a polymer frame and a steel frame out in the weather and see what one is use in able in month.


23 posted on 06/08/2016 9:46:41 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

Yeah....I’ve heard all about the ‘tests’.....

Rust? The slide and the barrel aren’t a problem? The embedded steel rails that keep the slide aligned? The springs, the magazine? All that? Are they made of impervium?


24 posted on 06/08/2016 9:46:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

The same with any firearm


25 posted on 06/08/2016 9:47:38 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: MtnClimber

26 posted on 06/08/2016 9:49:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: riverrunner

So what you’re saying is the polymer frame is what makes it all hang together.....

I like Glocks. I have some. I don’t consider them battle weapons, however.


27 posted on 06/08/2016 9:50:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Even though I am a huge 1911 fan, the Glock 19 would make a good backup gun in the field.


28 posted on 06/08/2016 9:50:51 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: gop4lyf

I am a 1911 person too!


29 posted on 06/08/2016 9:51:48 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: lacrew

I understand your concern but how hard would it be for the Glock company to modify the Glock 19 to add a thumb safety in order to fulfill a military contract. Personally, I think a safety on a handgun diminishes its effectiveness given that it is a purely defensive weapon, especially in a combat environment.


30 posted on 06/08/2016 9:51:55 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Zathras

I don’t have a problem with that.


31 posted on 06/08/2016 9:52:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DPMD
The devil is in the details. The bid specs will shape the decision, not steel vs. polymer, etc. I don't know what the specs are, they might be public record for those who wish to see them. But possible specification issues (items either required or preferred): Will the gun fire with the magazine out? Is there an external safety? Is the gun single and double action? Is there an external hammer? Is there a visible or palpable loaded chamber indicator? Is there a decocker? What is the standard magazine capacity? How easy is it to field strip and clean? What is the pistol weight? Are the sights adjustable? Is the magazine release button overly accessible? Is there a button hold-open and release for the slide? Does the slide lock open after the last round? Etc.
32 posted on 06/08/2016 9:54:10 AM PDT by Notthemomma
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To: circlecity

A frame safety is the one thing I wish all my Glocks had!

Personally I think the trigger safety is more of a drop preventive or unintended contact deterrent. I just don’t like the sole safety being like it is.


33 posted on 06/08/2016 9:55:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MtnClimber
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34 posted on 06/08/2016 9:56:51 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither.)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree the CZ is a great pistol.

The only knock I’ve heard is they’ve had some problems with their polymer pistols.

I suspect the government is going to require both a safety and a decocker. Which makes me wonder how CZ will pull that off, as their design allows either, but not both at the same time.


35 posted on 06/08/2016 9:57:34 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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To: lacrew

The Glock is actually a perfect Army weapon. It has the toughest finish, the fewest parts, the highest dependability of anything out there. It’s impervious to salt water, mud, freezing temperatures, etc.
It is light and that matters.....a lot.

It is idiot proof, no levers, buttons, switches, decockers, or different conditions or modes.
Normal classic military mode is loaded mag on an empty chamber. This is super easy to do with a Glock.


36 posted on 06/08/2016 9:57:45 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: MtnClimber

So the congress critters and brass can buy up all the stocks.


37 posted on 06/08/2016 9:59:06 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Gaffer

I have steel, poly, alum, Ti frame handguns many makes and models.

They all have been proven over time when it comes to over all usage I’ll take poly and stainless guns over the rest.

I been carrying handguns every day for over 40 some years.

The ones that get left in the safe are the blued steel ones.


38 posted on 06/08/2016 9:59:48 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Brookhaven

CZ P-01 and it’s variants were NATO approved. You may be thinking of their 75s.


39 posted on 06/08/2016 10:00:40 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: riverrunner

I have the same, but neither of us has a poly that is a 100 years old.


40 posted on 06/08/2016 10:02:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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