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Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest
AssociatedPress ^ | May 5, 2016, 8:31 PM ET | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

Posted on 05/06/2016 9:57:00 PM PDT by LucyT

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To: advertising guy

The so-called smasher variety of the mantis shrimp attacks by whamming down the lower edge of its dull, calcified claw with such speed, it’s enough to pulverize a snail’s shell, smash out chunks of a rock wall or even break a finger.

61 posted on 06/08/2016 9:57:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; ...
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The National Transportation Safety Board releases findings.

See # 58 .

Thanks, smokingfrog. Appreciate the ping.

62 posted on 06/08/2016 9:59:00 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: PA-RIVER; butterdezillion; LucyT

Pa-river

If the ‘twins’ box was altered, then that means they used the Nordyke twins’ birth cert as a template for 0’s.

The twins’ birth cert is available, but the one of the baby Virginia Sunahara that died is not; to this day Virginia’s brother cannot get the : rth cert of his sister.

Which means they did a musical chairs with at least two sets of certificates, the twins’ and Sunahara’s.


63 posted on 06/09/2016 1:43:32 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Been there/done that. Bathroom, middle of the night....head meet bathtub...21 stitches.

Gotta watch that.

Brings to mind Gary Kildall, the author of CP/M, the predecessor to Microsquish/DOS. He should be worth billions. Instead, he's pushing up flowers.

According to the Wikipedia, Gary suffered a fall in a biker bar in Monterey in 1994.

64 posted on 06/09/2016 2:37:29 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: LucyT
This thing is as bad as Scalia’s death. Both cry out for an investigative journalist of the caliber of Sharyl Atkisson to do a thorough investigation.
65 posted on 06/09/2016 5:43:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (The U.S.A.: home of the Free because of the brave--Go Palin/Donald)
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To: LucyT
“It’s not clear when a final report will be released—— possibly a few months,” said NTSB a spokesman Keith Holloway.

about Nov 10 or 15,,,....

66 posted on 06/09/2016 5:45:42 AM PDT by rodguy911 (The U.S.A.: home of the Free because of the brave--Go Palin/Donald)
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To: PghBaldy

His first name was Sargeant don’t recall the last....


67 posted on 06/09/2016 5:47:57 AM PDT by rodguy911 (The U.S.A.: home of the Free because of the brave--Go Palin/Donald)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’m two days late on this one bud but we think exactly alike.


68 posted on 06/09/2016 5:48:45 AM PDT by rodguy911 (The U.S.A.: home of the Free because of the brave--Go Palin/Donald)
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To: bgill

If I am not mistaken life jackets come in several sizes,hard to tell which one she had,appears she did get it on.


69 posted on 06/09/2016 5:50:55 AM PDT by rodguy911 (The U.S.A.: home of the Free because of the brave--Go Palin/Donald)
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To: rodguy911

The article stated she had an infant life jacket. Since we can all see she was able to put it on, then it was most definitely not an infant size. The msm lies at every turn.


70 posted on 06/09/2016 8:08:59 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: azishot
0bamacide???

I think so. I suspect the idea was to just have the crash be fatal for everyone... but the pilot managed to crash the plane relatively safely. The CIA (or whomever was overseeing the operation) probably had people embedded in the first responders and they made sure Fuddy didn't survive the rescue.

71 posted on 06/09/2016 8:15:55 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: smokingfrog
The reason for the blade failures could not be determined due to secondary thermal damage to the blades.

Yeah, bashing it with a wrecking ball a couple dozen times could cause enough secondary damage so as it can never be determined what/who caused the problem.

72 posted on 06/09/2016 8:30:29 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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With just two weeks to go before the presidential election, "Obama left the campaign trail to visit Dunham in Honolulu. She had recently broken her hip, and Obama told ABC that visiting her was important to him. "One of the things I wanted to make sure of is that I had a chance to sit down with her and talk to her," he said. "She's still alert and she's still got all her faculties, and I want to make sure that I don't miss that opportunity right now."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96175259

Yeah, real concerned. The Honolulu newspaper at the time published a timeline which showed he spent about a half hour in the apartment building. I've never seen the picture you mentioned but remember a picture of him walking to the apartment. At the time, there was a rumor that she died days earlier than it was reported.

73 posted on 06/09/2016 9:21:32 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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From # 59, see statement and photo by smokingfrog:

plane lands in the water intact, but looks like this when recovered?

Click here:

https://aviation-safety.net/photos/displayphoto.php?id=20131211-0&vnr=2&kind=C

Also check out # 52, then new comments from 59 to end of page.

Thanks, smokingfrog.

75 posted on 06/09/2016 7:16:03 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: bgill

I always thought it was real interesting he had to get there, since his own book stated he found his birth certificate in granny’s apartment.

Well, what an amazing coincidence that she dropped dead about 48 hours before the 2008 election and that he gained access to the apartment prior to that.

Always amazing coincidences with him. He has the Devil’s luck or something like that.


76 posted on 06/09/2016 7:29:30 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: bgill

BTW, it took several days before his 757 flew all the way over there. I remember it clearly. Gonna go ..... hadn’t gone yet. Days. It was like 4 or 5 days. But it was an emergency and he had to get there quickly. Or so it was announced.


77 posted on 06/09/2016 7:32:36 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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Did someone call for SA?

As is to be expected in the case of a ruse, the cited article and the NTSB information is laced with falsehoods and time-wasting misdirection.

A commuter airline pilot is generally supposed to give a full pre-flight briefing to all his or her passengers (14 CFR 135.117), but in this case, the NTSB notes the pilot didn’t give such a briefing. However, the rules also state, “This paragraph does not apply to a person who has been given a briefing before a previous leg of a flight in the same aircraft.” We’re supposed to waste time chattering back and forth until the pilot is ultimately exonerated because there’s some claimed evidence he did give a briefing to those same passengers on the flight leg from Honolulu to Kalaupapa in the morning of the same day. Those pre-flight briefing “procedures” are the ones to which the pilot is noted in the NTSB report and the ABC article to have later hearkened, saying the passengers “knew” those procedures because they’d earlier heard them on the earlier leg from the same pilot. Of course, a more complete pilot pre-flight briefing prior to the Kalaupapa-Honolulu leg may have kept anyone from inadvertently having to wear an infant life jacket. Or maybe not.

The Army Green Beret veteran that falsely claimed to have swum a mile or more to shore--guessing it took 90 minutes--put on an infant life jacket that somehow only his wife noticed well after the event to be an infant life jacket, not an adult PFD. The NTSB video seems to show his going to shore covered only approximately 200 yards, taking more like six minutes and beginning only some 47 minutes after ditching. In any event, he was logged to have been on shore only 53 minutes after ditching, so there was nowhere time for a 90-minute anything. One imagines an Army Green Beret knows as at least as much about disinformation as he knows the difference between six minutes and ninety minutes.

The videographer appears to have attempted to cover for the pilot when he said on his Facebook page and in a media report, that “The pilots [sic, emphasis added] on this aircraft did a stellar job … notifying the passengers of the location of their life vests,” yet, another passenger reported the life jackets were not where they were supposed to be. (Had they been moved since the morning flight?) The videographer certainly knew there was only one pilot on board, yet somehow choose that misdirection, probably in an attempt to distance himself from his acute familiarity with the larger plan, and that he had by that time met with their USCG swimmer/rescuers and the entire complement of passengers, save the Keys and Fuddy, in the Brileys’ hospital room, underscoring that he knew there had been only one pilot.

The ABC video affirms that there was “not a peep” in the post-bang glide down to the water, meaning the pilot’s recorded representation to the USCG of him telling the passengers to prepare for a water landing and to don their PFD’s (life jackets) was false.

In the NTSB Factual Report, it says Fuddy wore an infant life jacket that was only partially inflated, noting one if its CO2 cartridges was still full and had not discharged. Yet, there’s clear visual evidence (see image below) that Fuddy was wearing a fully-inflated adult life jacket outside of the plane and that both CO2 cartridges on it had discharged. So the NTSB report would seem to have at least two errors: 1) Fuddy actually did wear an adult life jacket shortly after exiting the plane, and 2) her life-jacket was fully inflated, unlike the NTSB's claim of her life jacket being only partially inflated, consistent with one of two CO2 cartridges being left undischarged, which would misdirect our lying eyes, despite clear evidence.

Well before the passenger that swam ashore first headed there, the videographer’s cameras’ lenses saw that Fuddy had on what seems to be partially inflated infant life jacket. One question would be, “Who swapped life jackets for Fuddy and why did no one report that she might have complained about such a swap?” As all the occupants generally stayed within 15 yards or so of one another well after they left the plane area, why would no one else have recalled that life-jacket exchange so as to mention it to the Maui County Police, FAA or NTSB? Why did the police ask no questions asked about circumstances of a Fuddy’s demise and why was no testimony taken about this change-out, which just might have induced stress, caused her to hyperventilate or fostered an arrhythmia?

And why did the Hawaii Department of Health Deputy Director not complain about things that happened "right under his nose?" (More on that later.) The shore-swimming passenger said, "Her assistant was really watching her… taking care of her."

If there was indeed an infant life jacket in the scenario that had an undischarged CO2 cartridge, where and by whom would it have been kept prior to the exchange? Whose dastardly plan—with malice aforethought! (I just wanted to type that.)—was it to keep it around, and put it on Ms Fuddy only later?

And will it surprise anyone that the evidence clearly points to not just one passenger, but multiple passengers swapping life jackets in the scenario? Just how likely could that have happened by chance? And it wasn't chance!

So, although the NTSB faults the pilot for not having given a more complete briefing, it seems the NTSB may be faulted for taking over two and a half calendar years—and what, some 20+ man-years?—to spend tax-payer money investigating, while still not coming to easily-found, correct conclusions? Time will tell and truth will out, showing the reasons for such incorrect conclusions had more to do with government corruption than difficult puzzles or the public’s “lying eyes.”

Of course, once the government NTSB gets it wrong, expect the house “news” organ, ABC, to do little more than re-arrange the talking points, as it’s clear the MSM has abandoned any charge of investigative journalism that in a bygone era was taught in journalism schools.

78 posted on 08/16/2016 1:21:00 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx

Could “they” have switched life jackets on Fuddy in the rescue helicopter or lied on the autopsy to cover up something? Or could it have been a sloppy mistake in a gov report or sloppy msm reporting that keeps getting repeated?

I still want to know why the airport closed early. Sure, it’s a podunk airport but you don’t close up before the last plane takes off, especially if that plane is carrying the honorary mayor who is holding the purse strings for the airport and the much needed improvements they were begging for at the fire station next door.


79 posted on 08/16/2016 1:39:40 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: LucyT

Bullish*****.

I have a toddler life jacket and I couldn’t fit into it. Ruddy was not a slim woman.


80 posted on 08/16/2016 1:40:40 PM PDT by Yaelle (Sorry, Mr. Franklin. We've been extremely careless with our Republic.)
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