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Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest
AssociatedPress ^ | May 5, 2016, 8:31 PM ET | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

Posted on 05/06/2016 9:57:00 PM PDT by LucyT

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To: butterdezillion
can we id the people in this photo?


261 posted on 08/22/2016 9:18:42 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 4Zoltan

Or so they say.


262 posted on 08/22/2016 9:27:43 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: rx

Can you please post the link to the “both the aircraft and a rescue boat.”


263 posted on 08/22/2016 9:29:36 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: smokingfrog

Yep they are NSA agents 001,002,003,004,005 and 006.


264 posted on 08/22/2016 9:31:40 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: little jeremiah; John O; stephenjohnbanker; SatinDoll; HiTech RedNeck; SE Mom; Brown Deer; bgill; ..

In a letter received from the PACFLT Commander of the US Navy Submarine Force via FOIA, it disclosed that the USS La Jolla, a Navy submarine specifically rigged to transport SEAL delivery vehicles of the very type possibly seen in the Kalaupapa waters two hundred yards from the Caravan, was assigned to be in that area, uniquely on that very day!   What a coincidence!

In the upper right is the LaJolla with an attached SEAL Delivery Vehicle.

Note in the photo at the bottom right of post #257 versus this one on the right, that the SDV’s conning tower, periscope and radio antenna are all separately extensible.

So what we were pretty sure we saw in the water near Fuddy and her fellow Caravan occupants has been all but confirmed by the US Navy only twenty-six months later, even though the further activities of the La Jolla and her seamen and –women have been kept classified.

265 posted on 08/22/2016 9:37:07 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: smokingfrog

Yes!
266 posted on 08/22/2016 9:40:40 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: 4Zoltan
BGill: Again, we see a perfectly intact plane compared to the total mess they later pulled out of the ocean.

In an August, 2015 speech to the Pike’s Peak Prophecy Club in Colorado, the noted author, Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., said he was told “the plane went it was brought up, even though it went down whole, was brought up and crushed--broken apart--the experts say, by a mechanical machine that breaks the airplanes apart, and crushed. Now why would you do that, except to destroy the evidence of the airplane?” Corsi later said he got that “info[rmation] from [a source inside] the company hired to bring up the wreck.”

I believe Corsi's source was at least partly correct, but I also believe the divers on-scene, as seen above, with the slip-n-slide were also partly responsible for the mess.

267 posted on 08/22/2016 9:49:45 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: All

This photo shows the plane very close to shore.

A lawsuit filed on behalf of Fuddy's family two years ago was settled last August. The details were not released.

Click on the photo for the full story.

268 posted on 08/22/2016 9:50:37 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rx

If that is L.F., it appears she does have a small life vest but it seems to be fully inflated.


269 posted on 08/22/2016 9:54:11 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
can we id the people in this photo?

They're probably all dead by now. You know, common causes... like getting attacked by poisonous Amazonian tree frogs jumping out of the fridge, attempting to skydive without a parachute, and getting pulled down the toilet by a stray boa constrictor. Oh well... it all happened so soon after the crash that the Feds couldn't get their statements.

270 posted on 08/22/2016 9:55:38 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: bgill
Your vish iss my kohmahnd!

This is from the "Radar Associated Sector 3" transcript file.
271 posted on 08/22/2016 9:56:11 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: smokingfrog
What makes you think it's a small life vest?

272 posted on 08/22/2016 9:59:36 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: Cementjungle

It appears you’re just a bit out sync, ‘Jung. Try post #266.


273 posted on 08/22/2016 10:01:35 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: fella

Ah, you must be with humblegunner!   Nobody else brought such things into this discussion.


274 posted on 08/22/2016 10:11:12 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: LucyT

You could probably get an infant life jacket around your neck. It’s hard to say without knowing the type and model number. In an emergency you can make just about anything work.


275 posted on 08/22/2016 10:30:46 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: rx
I could be wrong, but it kind of looks like this to me.


276 posted on 08/22/2016 11:55:49 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
The adult life jackets in the scenario show upper and lower chambers, even when only one or the other are inflated. In the many frames that show the former Army Green Beret guy's infant life jacket, none of them show upper and lower chambers for his life jacket--just as your images do.

But the one on Ms Fuddy, as shown in post #239, for example, did clearly show upper and lower chambers, both being inflated. Those CO2 cartridges both would have been punctured.

Your pictures obviously show only one chamber.

277 posted on 08/22/2016 12:23:58 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx

why is “Fuddy’s vest” torn up?


278 posted on 08/22/2016 12:56:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
why is "Fuddy's vest" torn up?"

The FAA's report reads:
"We had a team composed of NTSB, CESSNA & FAA Inspectors inspecting the remaining contains [sic] of the aircraft. There was emphasis review the aircraft seating [sic] and where the life preservers might have been stored. The fatality was found with a "infant" [sic] life preserver on the person. The life preserver was cut by medical personal [sic] and NTSB Investigator that the 'infant' life preserver [sic] might have contributed to the person's fatality."

Additionally, the caption of the NTSB Accident Photo file reads, "Life vest was cut at clinic", which is almost certainly a reference to a building on Kalaupapa where the lifeless body was brought.

279 posted on 08/22/2016 2:03:47 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: smokingfrog

Although that life jacket looks to have been made by the same company, the instruction markings are different.   Also, the PFDs in this incident did not have the red inflation tube positioned as that one is.


280 posted on 08/22/2016 2:15:32 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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