Two volcanoes trigger crises of the late antiquity

Geology Page ^ | April 2016 | unattributed

[blam]

"Twas a comet, struck Camelot on Wales and destroyed it, and sent King Arthur to Kentucky. "

(Prince) Madoc In America

[blam]

The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

[Little Bill]

Before you beat on me to badly let me suggest this. This seems to be a cyclical thingy, end of the Minoan warm period, the old Kingdom comes crashing down, and last but not least the Black Plague.

What if this tectonic stuff happened during during a sunspot minim? I think that if you go back you can find several earlier events on a roughly 1000 year time line.

[SunkenCiv]

Gribbin and Plagemann (sp?) did that book, about 35-40 years ago, "The Jupiter Effect", which claimed that a somewhat superficial review of the data from the previous couple of Grand Alignments of the planets suggested that disastrous, basically apocalyptic quakes occurred (interval something like 178 years, if memory serves). Either that book, or a review of it, pointed out a 22 year (?) cycle of sunspots appeared to correspond to the intermittent alignment cycle of Jupiter and Saturn alone. Thanks Little Bill.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks OT.

[gleeaikin]

There are some interesting stories about the Mandan Indians which may relate to this. I think someone on the Lewis and Clarke expedition had a Welsh speaker who commented on linguistic similarities, and they also had a different cultural organization than other Indians.

[SunkenCiv]

The Mystery of the Mandanas
http://100777.com/node/373

Origins of The Mandan (written by a purported descendant of Madoc)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos217.htm

That Mandan is not Welsh
http://www.languagegeek.com/siouan/mandan_is_not_welsh.html

Setting the Record Straight About Native Peoples: Norse and Welsh Explorers
http://www.native-languages.org/iaq10.htm

[Little Bill]

Thanks I will look around for it. This damn cycle thing has been rotting my brain for about 20 years. It seems rather apparent, but as I have discovered when you look at the literature of history it is like 5 blind men describing an elephant.

[colorado tanker]

The Mandans and the Corps of Discovery found ways to keep each other warm during the harsh Dakota winter. Baby it’s cold outside . . .

[SunkenCiv]

;’)

[SunkenCiv]

:’)

[Smokin' Joe]

The Mandans and the Corps of Discovery found ways to keep each other warm during the harsh Dakota winter. Baby it’s cold outside . . .

Earth Lodges helped.

[Smokin' Joe]

I don't care. I read BCE as Before Christian Era, because the birth of Christ is the demarcation event in the time line; CE thus becomes Christian Era.

If the Birth of Christ is the reference, "Common" doesn't work: there are other timelines and year references (Islamic, Jewish, Japanese, Nepalese, Chinese, to name a few, especially noted dating coins), so it isn't completely "common", after all, except in modern usage.

If you're doing archaeology, it doesn't hurt to preserve the history of the timeline, too. Anno Domini (in the year of Our Lord) 2016, for instance.

[LouieFisk]

“The Dark Ages May Have Really Been Dimmer”
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/01/010102061812.htm