"So I had to buy them again."
Posted on 04/02/2016 8:31:40 AM PDT by samtheman
Tesla Motors Inc.’s unveiling of its new electric vehicle yesterday had the marks of an iPhone release—long lines of enthusiastic consumers, a glossy product and a CEO presenting in a simple black shirt.
Little new information came out about the Model 3, but with the car’s comparably more affordable $35,000 price tag and 215-mile range, Tesla is making a bid to become a mass-market auto manufacturer.
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“You’ll be sorry you don’t have one when the next OPEC oil embargo comes around.”
You’ll be sorry you do have one when gasoline is banned and electricity costs skyrocket higher than gas costs were.
This is all about control. Nothing government does is anything BUT control.
And charging time?? How does 52 hours sound?
I wait for the self driving one to buy though.
It is over 215 miles round trip from were I live to the nearest charging station. The home Powerwall costs an additional $3000 at 6.4 Kw and works only during the day because it uses solar panels to charge - I assume mounting and installation of both units adds even more thousand$ to the price.
Musk’s huddled masses maybe but not the rest of us that do not have trust funds, high paying jobs on some company board etc.
And then the EPA swoops in and closes all the coal fired power pants and then the natural gas fired plants ... so your car is charged but your home is dependent on wind and solar ... I gots a really neat car but the stove don’t work and the pipes have frozen and ...
If $35k is what the car can actually be bought for and is profitable for the company, it’s comparable to the smaller models of status brands and will have just as much status appeal. Add in much lower operating cost and it may work without subsidy. Needs to.
Apparently in Seattle people were standing in long lines to buy this car. Anxious to get the rebate provided not by the manufacturer but by the rest of us taxpayers.
At $35,000 - for the masses not.
How about being able to commute via the HOV lane? This is important to some people especially Federal workers and drones in the DC region.
"So I had to buy them again."
“That cost to plug it in at home overnight wont even be noticeable. “
Tesla vehicles shave an 85kWh (kilowatt hours) Battery. The average cost per kilowatt is 12.5 centers per kilowatt hour.
85kWh * 12.5 center per kWh = $10.63 to charge it.
I think people will notice $10 per day, or $300 per month, and that is for current electricity charges. If the entire nation went to electric cars image the cost increases as they have the population by the short and curlies: 20 cents per kilowatt, a $1.00 maybe?
Obama has been shutting down coal fired plants. Nuclear hasn’t been emerging. The grid must also be upgraded to handle the extra juice. Costs will skyrocket. Home use will cost more. Politicians will start vote buying by providing tax breaks for electric cars, causing costs to go up for other uses.
You don't turn on the electric heater. Instead you wear three layers of long johns and a hooded arctic survival parka...ski gloves too.
I’m not a fan of Musk at all. He’s a regime affiliate.
But the average transaction price on new vehicles was $33,667 last month.
So 35k less the 7500 federal rebate puts them in a category where there is a LOT of transaction volume.
...and keep the garage heated so the battery doesn’t suffer.
“How about being able to commute via the HOV lane? This is important to some people especially Federal workers and drones in the DC region. “
HOV is socialism, and like all socialism, at some point you run out of it. Colorado uses those HOV lanes but when everyone is using them they move slower than the rest of the freeways. Dumb idea. The best idea has been simply to use the extra lanes in the direction of traffic (morning vs night).
On advanced batteries, some interesting stuff almost here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3416180/posts?page=26#26>
On natural gas generation and note, I am not sure they used "Cogeneration Units" i.e. those that are Gas Turbines powered by Natural Gas that spin a generator and the waste heat then is used to spin it as well for almost 60% of the fuel doing the work, not 30% in this analysis of Nat Gas vs Solar, go here:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3416644/posts
Fwiw, some of the posters on this thread noted Nuclear projects currently going on.
Where is Trump-Cruz-Kasich-Clinton-Sanders on LFTR, aka Liquid Florine ( cooled ) Thorium Reactors?
Nothing all of them same on them. It is the game changer for an energy starved planet and yes would enable an electric car paradigm shift IMHO. let the free-market here do it, but dang it don't give them money to do it, but get the heck out of their way!!!!
Why all the hostility towards this car? I see nothing wrong with advancing technology forward. Sure, the gas powered cars are more efficient today and likely better for the environment. But technology is always improving. So a range of 230 miles today could be 500 plus miles later. A charging time of hours today could be minutes eventually. Let the early adopters buy this car and give Tesla an opportunity to improve on future models.
Tesla could embed some 110AC heating elements in the battery. Might not need more that 100 watts on a cold night
Why am I not impressed?
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Because you’re prejudiced and applying standards to the car that other people aren’t.
All well and good but none of Tesla's quick swap battery station have succeeded. Not only that, but Tesla was getting something like 80 million a year California subsidy for setting up such swap stations. They set up one that was used minimally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_station
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