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Why a Contested Convention Favors Cruz
National Review ^ | March 23, 2016 | ELIANA JOHNSON

Posted on 03/23/2016 12:01:56 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Meet Curly Haugland, former chairman of the North Dakota Republican party and current Republican national committeeman. Haugland is one of just 112 delegates who will arrive unbound to this summer’s Republican convention in Cleveland, free to cast a vote for any candidate he chooses on a first ballot because North Dakota does not hold a primary or caucus. That makes him a particularly valuable asset to the still-dueling presidential campaigns...

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To: fortheDeclaration

I’m amazed at the foolishness at the national level. No wonder these idiots have the nation in such a mess.


81 posted on 03/23/2016 1:02:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: Zenjitsuman

As Fl and AZ shows most of Rubio and Carson voters went to Trump or K-sick.

I don’t agree that these insiders in WI have that much endorsement influence.

My reason is look at SC,, Haley, Grahmnasty, Scott, Gowdy all endorsed Rubio and Trump won the whole state 50 delegates.


82 posted on 03/23/2016 1:04:48 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: Zathras

“Cruz is being used as a tool to get Jeb the nomination.
Once they get a brokered convention, Jeb and Romney will kick Cruz to the curb.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That is it. I suspect Cruz knows this, from Jeb’s lips in Florida. That, IMHO, is why he is acting what I think is out of character, being a jerk. That’s not him, but he was made an offer he can’t refuse.


83 posted on 03/23/2016 1:16:18 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Zenjitsuman

Wisconsin is next to MI, and that side of the state should be for Trump, K-sick may do well in Rino part of the state.

The Brussels terrorist attack when your in a state next to a big Muslim population state like MI could scare up some votes for Trump. Trump is far better than Cruz and K-sick who will never deport illegals.

Now that Cruz is with Gramnasty and Bush who favor illegals
“an act of love” I don’t think Cruz has standing to fight Islamic Terrorism like Trump does.


84 posted on 03/23/2016 1:16:57 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: Robert DeLong
National Review favors Ted Cruz, so no wonder they come up with this nonsense.

You obviously don't understand the process to call this nonsense.

Trump does not carry "the will of the people" as I've heard so often.

He's winning delegates by a plurality of votes.

The convention represents the will of the Republican Party and 40% of the delegates do not represent the will of the Republican Party.

You might consider this nonsense, but these are the facts.

85 posted on 03/23/2016 1:22:19 PM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Rennes Templar

55% Chance Trump gets 1237
30% Chance Cruz wins on the third ballot
10% Kasich wins
5% Ryan or someone else


86 posted on 03/23/2016 1:22:22 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: GodGunsGuts

FYI, from what I can tell, of those 112 unbound delegates, 66 from Colorado and Wyoming MAY commit delegates in April.

37 Colorado 4/6 convention
29 Wyoming 4/16 convention
= 66 total delegates may or may not make commitments

Looks like the rest of the 46 delegates will not make commitments until the national convention.

9 Guam
9 American Samoa
28 North Dakota
= 46

Total = 112


87 posted on 03/23/2016 1:23:53 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: GodGunsGuts

The latest CNN poll has Trump at 47%, Cruz at 31%

Please explain why the Republican Establishment would take the nomination away from the most popular candidate, and hand it to a less-popular candidate, rather than to a loyal Establishment member like Romney?


88 posted on 03/23/2016 1:28:21 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Girlene
-"According to an earlier post on this thread, California is not a WTA state."

That is not what is noted on Real Cleal Politics website concerning California primary ("Winner Take All" state)....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html

89 posted on 03/23/2016 1:34:01 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Girlene
-"According to an earlier post on this thread, California is not a WTA state."

That is not what is noted on Real Cleal Politics website concerning California primary ("Winner Take All" state)....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html

90 posted on 03/23/2016 1:35:10 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: GodGunsGuts

Trump is the great deal maker ... really great deal maker.
If he can’t make this deal, then he is just an almost great deal maker.


91 posted on 03/23/2016 1:45:55 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: GodGunsGuts

If this goes to a contested convention, there are two options.

1. If Ted really is a ‘hated outsider’ they’ll NEVER let him have it. He’ll be used to bring down Trump, then cast aside.

2. We find out that Ted isn’t the ‘outsider’ that we thought and he’s crowned by the GOP as one of their own.

Either way, I don’t like it.


92 posted on 03/23/2016 1:52:33 PM PDT by Marie (The vulgarians are at the gate! MAGA!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Here's my question regarding going into the convention with no candidate possessing a clear majority of delegates:

To what degree does that situation automatically advantage or disadvantage the delegate leader?

Actually, I just found this article A Contested Republican National Convention: How It Would Work which was very informative.

It got me to thinking, and I realized something:

Trump's got this. He's going to have a majority of delegates. But if he goes into the convention a few votes short, it's not going to matter.

This is the man who wrote The Art Of The Deal...

93 posted on 03/23/2016 2:40:54 PM PDT by sargon (Go, Trump, Go!)
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To: Zenjitsuman

Nate guessed wrong. Trump has 738.


94 posted on 03/23/2016 2:43:21 PM PDT by X-spurt
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To: Zenjitsuman

You got to lay off the mushrooms, man.

Where’d you get that Rubio and Carson (darn few) voters went to Trump? Disneyland?


95 posted on 03/23/2016 2:46:22 PM PDT by X-spurt
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To: Zenjitsuman

Far out! This whole tread you pinging yourself. Must be the other personality.


96 posted on 03/23/2016 2:48:05 PM PDT by X-spurt
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To: xzins

Stealing by a plurality is an anointing.

The MAJORITY is 50% +1 (1237) of ALL VOTES, not more than the next guy.

Its like Sudden Death Overtime, first one over the MAJORITY wins.

Numerology says 1237 is bad number for Donald.


97 posted on 03/23/2016 3:01:01 PM PDT by X-spurt
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To: X-spurt

Any argument based on rules and stats can always be countered.

But the order of finish doesn’t change, nor the distance between first and second.

Trump is in first and he’s far ahead.


98 posted on 03/23/2016 3:26:13 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: sonofagun
Of course I understand the process. I also understand that National Review loves their boy Ted.

Of course if Ted was winning delegates by virtue of the plurality of votes you would be singing a whole different tune, and the GOPe would probably be banking on Donald to stop Ted.

But 60% do represent the will of the Republican Party. You can delude yourself into believing that they will fall in line with Ted, much like Kasich deluded himself in believing the Republican Party was behind him, and Rubio before him. After the Republican machine managed to steal Ohio for him he soon realized he was only being used to slow down Donald Trump because his influence does not extend beyond Ohio.

Ted will learn that very same lesson as well.

But as they say it ain't over til it's over and many believe Trump will end up with the necessary delegates to win on the first vote.

However, I believe the Republicans will pull out all stops in denying Trump the nomination even with the necessary delegates.

99 posted on 03/23/2016 4:29:47 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: LibFreeUSA
Real Clear Politics says it's a WInner Take All, but: Congressional district delegates are allocated according to results in that district rather than statewide. I assume this means each district is a WTA for whoever wins that district?....not sure.
100 posted on 03/23/2016 5:18:16 PM PDT by Girlene
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