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Vanity-Personal survey on dirty tricks. What is your limit on what Cruz could do to Hillary?

Posted on 02/07/2016 11:57:50 AM PST by Cats Pajamas

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To: Cats Pajamas
The great thing is, you don't have to lie to get Hillary, the truth will do just fine.
So, have at it.

21 posted on 02/07/2016 12:49:36 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

I don’t mind what Ted did particularly. But he got caught, so everybody had every right to complain as well.

As far as voter fraud, however, I think our greatest gains are to be made preventing the other side from doing it, not doing it ourselves.


22 posted on 02/07/2016 1:01:23 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Ouderkirk

You gotta get in their face and punch back hard.


23 posted on 02/07/2016 1:03:42 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Marie Antoinette
That is why Willard failed, he didn’t go for the jugular.

THe EARS??? :-)

24 posted on 02/07/2016 1:04:56 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Do not answer that truthfully. It might bring undesirable attention from the FBI.


25 posted on 02/07/2016 1:09:30 PM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Cats Pajamas
Everything up to the point of lying.

No Republican is going to have to lie about Hillary Clinton.

The truth is awful enough.

26 posted on 02/07/2016 1:13:16 PM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Hillary will use all the sound bites of Trump praising her and Obama for what a wonderful job they’re doing. That’s when Trump should start telling all of Hillary’s nasty secrets. You know he has some, plenty of dirt out there.

Cruz, Trump or whomever is the nominee should use ever tool at their disposal to dispatch this commie. Which ever one wins, have them pardon the others :)


27 posted on 02/07/2016 1:17:39 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: Cats Pajamas

NONE.


28 posted on 02/07/2016 1:27:56 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

The Clintons go way beyond Alinsky in elections.

And in between elections come to think of it.


29 posted on 02/07/2016 1:35:46 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Cats Pajamas

LINE? I DON’T SEE NO STEENKING LINE!


30 posted on 02/07/2016 1:41:02 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Cats Pajamas
Considering there is no line, including murder, the Clinton crime machine will not cross....

Cruz should not have a line...well, maybe murder..

Quite frankly there is SO MUCH ammo to use against her, any GOP should be able to leave her in a fetal position on election day...

But they won't...

31 posted on 02/07/2016 1:45:36 PM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Cats Pajamas

It is one of the very reasons the electorate is so mad. This kind of trashing someone is indeed historical. Still doesn’t give me a warm feeling

It is one reason Trump has support ...because he fights back

Hammering home the truth doesn’t constitute dirty tricks


32 posted on 02/07/2016 2:12:22 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Cats Pajamas

When are tricks dirty?

In a Chicago inner city ward split between Capone’s Republican mafia and the Democrat crime syndicate, the bi-partisan combine alderman died.

So the combine put up a Democrat crime syndicate guy for the special election. Nobody filed against the machine, maybe because the anti-machine candidate in the two wards adjacent on the North and South had just been killed. (Assassination of the one to the East was 2 years later.)

But the machine candidate died just before the special election. Nobody was on the ballot. It was a pure write-in election. The machine put up their candidate, a guy even more solidly in the Democrat faction of the Combine. The Republican mafia faction depended on the Democrats for a lot of patronage jobs and contracts. So they had no choice, even though they didnt like it.

Then, out of no where, an anti-establishment candidate chose to run. About 50 volunteer anti-establishment types flocked to support her against the Crime Syndicate, including me.

Her base was the south end of the ward. So a friend and I chose to have fun in the north end of the ward. A Chicago ward has two Committeemen. They are the real powers in the Chicago machine, not the Alderman or Congressman, unless the office holder is also the Committeeman.

4am Election day morning my friend and I delivered a pamphlet to every Democrat house and car in the Northside of the ward urging them to write-in Girolami, the REAL Democrat ward Committeeman, which was the truth. So many people wrote in Girolami. But no vote was counted for him. The Election judges counted all his votes as if they were for Provenzanno.

In the two precincts controlled by the Republican mafia, I went door-to-door for two weeks before the election, campaigning hard for the anti-machine candidate.

Election day 6am I walked into the combined polling place with credentials to watch the election process. The Republican ward committeeman and Republican State Rep immediately started yelling at me to get out.

The Policeman came over and tried to calm down the Republican establishment guys. The Ward Committeeman threw a punch at my face as hard as he could. It was a hard punch. All his life he had been beating and breaking the legs of people who didn’t pay the 100% interest on their loans. He knew how to punch.

But I knew how to take a punch. I let his fist connect. But I stepped back such that there was little impact on me.

I turned to the cop and asked: Did you see anything? He answered: No. Later when away from the others, he told me that if he arrested or took any action against the aggressor throwing the punch, the aggressor would be rewarded by the County machine and the cop would be patrolling the end of a lonesome pier in the middle of the Chicago River. He sympathetically said: I voted for Goldwater too, assuming that I had supported Goldwater in the previous Presidential election as the Republican establishment had opposed Goldwater.

The way I count it, the anti-machine candidate lost about 500 to 5 in each of the 2 precincts. But the count only gave my candidate 1 vote in each precinct...the outspoken head of the American Legion Women’s Auxiliary, who had the charismatic support to be independent of the Committeeman ... in the other precinct, the Presbyterian Pastor, whose church mysteriously burned two months later.

So, in that story, what is unethical? Was my pushing a pamphlet for the wrong person on the other side unethical?
Who knows. But it sure was fun.

Was murder of the anti-machine candidate in 3 adjacent wards unethical?

Was mis-counting the vote unethical? Was throwing a punch unethical? Was the police refusing to do anything unethical? Illegal is fairly absolute. But is unethical relative or absolute?


33 posted on 02/07/2016 2:18:17 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: Cats Pajamas

That’s an interesting question. Typically, conservatives are just too good to fight evil with evil, especially when RINO’s are too busy employing evil on their own when it comes to politics.

The only way the left will ever be beaten is to play by their rules.

There should be no limits to foul play.


34 posted on 02/07/2016 2:23:03 PM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: AbolishCSEU
Anything short of sending this guy after the wicked witch is acceptable... and if it were me I'd send him in with his blue friend...


35 posted on 02/07/2016 2:28:04 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: Neidermeyer

When you have a lying criminal and despicable human being running, I’m kind of open to the whole package.


36 posted on 02/07/2016 2:29:10 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: spintreebob

Holy LORD! Do you still live there?


37 posted on 02/07/2016 2:44:44 PM PST by Cats Pajamas (Trump and Cruz, snakes or not I say let's send our meanest snake to take out the Clinton snake!)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Lee Atwater was a great strategist for the Republicans I hope his ghost is working for the Cruz campaign


38 posted on 02/07/2016 3:05:10 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Not in Chicago anymore. Now SE edge of downtown Atlanta with only 1 tragic death, a drunk fell over the railing of the upper deck of the baseball stadium.

My old Chicago neighborhood has been gentrified. The poor people have been pushed out by the Yuppies.

As I’ve been in politics 52+ years, and 50 of that in corrupt IL, I’ve seen my share of politics and other stuff not in the textbook.


39 posted on 02/07/2016 4:26:12 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

Sheesh. I bet you could write a book. It sounds scary messing with people like that. Weren’t you afraid they would kill you?


40 posted on 02/07/2016 4:33:31 PM PST by Cats Pajamas (Trump and Cruz, snakes or not I say let's send our meanest snake to take out the Clinton snake!)
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